[POLL] Do you like the new "dynamic draft"?

Athenes Lulu··17 votes·1,918 views

EDIT: Not "dynamic draft", "new draft pick". GG Rito and your misleading names.

This is day two, and we are already seeing a ton of controversy about the newly-introduced draft pick all over Boards. It is as controversial as Illaoi release: it's either really good, or really bad. Because of that, I have decided to make a poll to see what the (boards) community thinks on a larger scale, instead of fishing for individual threads on how much people like/hate it.

Personally, since Lulu support is the only thing I play, I like it because 1) support mains have been able to get their preferred roles anyways even before Team Builder exists, and 2) with friends it increases the chances of getting the roles I want (and that is, support). 4-man premades in ranked may create toxicity, but if you are going to put it in a different perspective, a LOT of people (like me) can't always just grab 5 people (who all play different things) and Q up in a ranked team, and we all know how normals is not rewarding at times. And in a game where people are encouraged to play as a team? About time, Riot.

However, there ARE some people who prefer to stick to one role, and wouldn't mind giving up more wait time just to get into that position. Because of how little people wanted to support, having to choose a secondary role is actually... unnecessary, and I honestly wouldn't mind having to wait for 5 extra minutes seconds to get Q'd in. I'm pretty sure there are people who play "jungle only" who wouldn't mind the wait, either.

What about you?

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41 Comments

Anihaku7 votes

Give me back teambuilder and the change is golden! [slayer-jinx-catface]

Athenes Lulu2 votes

Have both Team Builder and new draft available at once? I'll take it.

Or have Team Builder replace blind pick... I've always thought they would do that initially.

LadyRenly3 votes

Do I like it? Yes. Do I prefer this new one? Sure. Do I like it over teambuilder,no.

Do I like the new way to play ranked? No, in fact, my dreams of ever climbing to gold to get Victorious Urgot are over, I refuse to play rank with anyone(it ruins friendships) and I will not allow myself the chance to face premades, or get premades on my team, forcing me to play against a a premade too

coeurloyal2 votes

I think the majority of complaints are coming from those that pretty much just want to play one champion in one role all day long. I see a legitimate complaint there for streamers and pros that have clear intent most of the time, but I'm not sure that everyone else needs to be able to define what they want every single time.

The tendency to instalock their champion and force everyone else to play around it really needs to stop. I'm tired of seeing Yasuo picked into comps with no knockups or Rivens getting picked into poke comps, and team builder queues are long enough that it's not worth dropping them for someone else.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Please don't hate me for playing nothing but Lulu support :^( though all you need is just pick ONE frontliner who commits and it is NOT hard. No, Lee Sin doesn't count.

Jokes aside, people can just grab a friend (who also only plays one role) and they will get the role guaranteed. Say there is a mid and jungle main. One can just go mid/jungle and the other can just go jungle/mid. Problem solved! But I guess people are salty that they can't even find a reliable friend.

######EDIT: GG sneaky Rito it doesn't work :^(

coeurloyal1 votes

Hmmm... for a Lulu player I'd allow an exception. You can be my wingman anytime ;)

But really, outside of Lulu/Thresh/Alistar I don't think any given champion can be an any-team fit.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Supports usually don't screw up team comps, unless it's something like a team full of mages and the last pick support picks ANOTHER mage/backliner.

BluePolarizer1 votes

disagree. If your have something like Malphite Elise Zed Lucian then picking Janna is not useful compared to say if you picked Blitzcrank Leona Annie .

Athenes Lulu1 votes

"Usually don't" as in they can still screw up comps like the case you mentioned :)

Some people have played Janna the "engage" way, though not optimal.

Hot Nurse1 votes

{quoted}

Hmmm... for a Lulu player I'd allow an exception. You can be my wingman anytime ;)

But really, outside of Lulu/Thresh/Alistar I don't think any given champion can be an any-team fit.

Soraka or Sona ?

lol heals?

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Heals of any shape or form usually don't screw up comps unless no one on their teams can peel (since Sona and Raka don't have reliable self-peels unlike other supports).

Though Kindred Soraka is one of the most redundant comps botlane, as much as we like them goat legs.

coeurloyal1 votes

The problem with Raka/ Sona is their lack of hard cc and missed tank stats. I chose Alistar and Thresh because they're tanky, have hard cc, reliable engage and disengage, and can match any comp regardless of strat--which is why they are two of the three most common supports in the LCS (the other being the OP toad).

The only reason I would include Lulu on the list is because she has point-and-click buffs/debuffs, an ult that turns anybody she wants into a tank, and because she can run in any lane without causing problems and still provide all of that utility.

This is just my personal perspective, of course, but as a non-support plaayer those are the only three I would take in any comp, assuming that the Lulu isn't necessarily in the support role every time.

Drugoth1 votes

Holy hell for the love of all that is holy don't forget Nami! 2 knockups, a slow enchant and a bouncing heal/damage spell? Not to mention boosting teammates movespeed by over 60 for 1 second whenever you even cast a spell. NAMI needs to be included in the "fits any team" list.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Behold, the true Jack-of-all-trades support.

What kind of things she can't do? What kind of comps THE she can't fill?

######Like Lulu support too bad people don't know how to play her properly :^(

Drugoth1 votes

Just check out my match history. I know how to play her :) 66% winrate with her season 5

The Bearded Bard2 votes

Dynamic draft is the name of the Ranked queue that lets you have more than one person grouped in solo queue. The new champ select is just called Draft.

Misleading thread is misleading.

Athenes Lulu4 votes

GG blame Rito for not clarifying what's what. I've always thought "dynamic queue" is the new draft mode.

The Bearded Bard2 votes

Yeah, it wasn't super clear d: All this behind us now, I think the new draft is fantastic. Sure it'd be nice to be able to pick only one role, but that's definitely not reason enough to say it's bad. Dynamic queue on the other had I have mixed feelings on. On the one hand, it's nice to play with friends and it definitely brings more of a team aspect to ranked, which is great because this is a team game. On the other hand, it feels awful to get stomped by a 4 man premade as a solo player. I haven't had it happen to me yet, but I've done it to others multiple times since dynamic has begun.

With all of these changes I just gotta look to Guru Kha'zix for advice, 'Change is gooooooooood'.

Sneakyy XD2 votes

It's cool, but it's not justification for removing teambuilder.

Sammystorm2 votes

My main problem with it is that it waters down the meaning of individual ranks.

Athenes Lulu3 votes

RIP real soloQ and individual skill, maybe they never liked the idea of that in a TEAM GAME in the first place.

Sammystorm1 votes

The addition of ranks in season 3 made the meaning of ratings less important. So it has been a trend to reduce "hardcore" elements and promote accessibility. End of the day I will still play ranked

DrCyanide1 votes

I haven't gotten a chance to try it yet, but I'm very excited to use it this ranked season. I've got two friends I regularly play with, and being able to have all three of us together in ranked (not Twisted Treeline...) will be great!

I think the only people that are having problems with the idea are those that take the game too seriously and can't enjoy it as a game. If you're not in Diamond+, this change is net neutral. If you're in Diamond, then you reach out to the other 3% of the player base that's near your skill level and join a team that you practice more with and become even better.

Athenes Lulu2 votes

The new draft is designed so people would take the game a little more seriously, because you can now choose your own roles and (supposedly) "play better", instead of filling and doing a super shitty job because people don't take shit seriously.

But again, that's just me. Though you should try it out sometime, especially before season 6 starts officially on the 20th.

Moooose1 votes

All this did was get rid of calling your roles in chat and make it automated which I think is a mistake because what I've noticed, is that there is little to no swapping lanes or communication going on during queues. It is so much harder to convince somebody to switch roles with you. For some reason people "pick" their roles, and for some reason are much less likely to give them up in this new champ select. Idk honestly I thought the old champ select was completely fine, and not quite sure why it was changed.

Son Olivia Hye1 votes

i think the new champion select is nice and even better for friends to play ranked. Riot did say they would pair premades against premades so it is fair.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Though Rito matchmaking is often shady.

But since in normals 85% of the time you go against the same # of premades (as in both teams have 3-man premades, for instance), I don't think that would be too big of a problem.

Jorencice1 votes

Not a single dislike. Huh.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Maybe haters are just too shy to even voice in their own opinions.

Especially because the person collecting for answers likes the new draft.

Kinjishi1 votes

The opinions in this thread are more fair and balanced as opposed to "new dynamic queue sucks". Lulu made a good post and so did others. Upvoted people.

CooLWhiP5551 votes

It's not bad

FrumpyPhoenix1 votes

i would love it if it didnt tell me i had a 0 sec estimated wait time and take at least 4 minutes to join solo

coeurloyal1 votes

probably a bug...

Zhire1 votes

I absolutely love the new champion selection! The sound effects of the buttons I click and the animation when I ban a champion! It's way too cool when you pick a champion and the selection quote is broadcast to all ten players! And then you lock in your favorite champion showing the enemy team how strong your team is! It also makes me feel pro, which is really just me because I don't want to be reminded about the fact that I completely suck a** at this game which gives me horrible nightmares just by the thought of it.

ChaoticPinecone1 votes

The visuals are amazing, and as a person who "fills" most games anyway, it changed absolutely nothing for me. Actually, no - it did change one thing. If you decide to show your team your champion, i dont like how it auto-shows it for the enemy when its your time to choose. Yesterday I was in a game where the enemy first-pick highlighted thresh, then changed to lux. It was pretty reasonable to assume it was a support lux (it was). And im not sure how i feel about having to actively ban a champ.

Besides that, there really is no problem. I mean, OK - say you queue up as Support/Mid. You get into the lobby, and you are chosen to go mid. You can still communicate with your team. Just say, "hey, im a support main, can i switch with you?"

but personally i never liked teambuilder, and on SR my chosen game mode was normals. Now its to this new draft system. So an overall improvement in my book.

oscar the grouch1 votes

I like the new champion select. I love team builder. Very displeased honestly. But the new champion select could definitely use some improvements as well.

DoctorWolf181 votes

No it sucks eversince the champ select I get more teams that have no teamwork never ward or help more than ever. They could of used that money to make a better matchmaking system not a champ select.

coeurloyal1 votes

I think that's less a problem with the draft and more a problem with your luck of the draw :/

Saphixia1 votes

Do i like it? yes but plz do fix all the problems with frozen screens and stuff because i always get people quitting during pick and shit like that

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