"We delayed fizz damage"

Moonfall Saber·Mar 2, 2018·44 votes·3,298 views

yet can kill you in under a second

61 Comments

Ahri BakaMar 2, 201839 votes

Fizz can do it too He never needed his Ult to kill in late game

Moonfall SaberMar 2, 20189 votes

the main delay is on fizz w

Ahri BakaMar 2, 201833 votes

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the main delay is on fizz w

He can still kill you in less than a second

Jet SettMar 2, 20184 votes

If Fizz kills you in less than a second WITHOUT ult, you should have warded wherever he jumped out from, cause there's no real reason to be 100-0 by him.

Ahri BakaMar 2, 20183 votes

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If Fizz kills you in less than a second WITHOUT ult, you should have warded wherever he jumped out from, cause there's no real reason to be 100-0 by him.

Well if you are under tower and he jumps to you , then wards has nothing to do with it besides he can actually 1 shoot with his ult

Jet SettMar 2, 20184 votes

The point wasn't him killing with his ult, it was him killing someone WITHOUT it. Lots of assassins have dive pressure with their ultimates.

yay nibbersMar 2, 20183 votes

Without ult or W he'd have to be VERY fed to do that.

Ahri BakaMar 2, 20181 votes

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Without ult or W he'd have to be VERY fed to do that.

Well it's not that hard to get Fed on Fizz since he can dodge and kill and to be honest I don't play Fizz " planning on doing that since he is in rotation right now " But usually he kills me with Q E W,AA and ignite if needed That takes 1 second only " Ignoring the E cast time "

Vayne2MasterMar 2, 20181 votes

Not without R unless he is completely fed which is the same for every assassin so please.

RainbowIceeMar 2, 20181 votes

the ult in the end it's just a CC so his next prey can't get away.

wildfox99Mar 2, 20183 votes

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Fizz can do it too He never needed his Ult to kill ~~in late game~~ after his first back

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Reverent WrathMar 2, 20182 votes

I haven't been afraid if Fizz since like season 4. Never had a problem dealing with him with control mages. shrug

TalinisMar 2, 20181 votes

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I haven't been afraid if Fizz since like season 4. Never had a problem dealing with him with control mages. shrug

Because you shouldn't, he is very bad high elo and very good low elo against noobs who have no idea how to counterplay. Diamond and master tier, better off going afk instead of fizz or picking most any other mid champion instead

Ahri BakaMar 2, 20181 votes

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I haven't been afraid if Fizz since like season 4. Never had a problem dealing with him with control mages. shrug

That's because you main Brand , not all mages , or you either play adc or Illaoi The mages I main and that make me suffer against him are Ahri Lux Taliyah Syndra , they all have that 1 ability to cc so they can kill , which is easy for any Fizz to dodge it , and when it's dodged , they are dead unless they are fed or it's late game , but speaking of late game , he can still kill them in less than a second too so

koshkyraMar 2, 201818 votes

Fizz can do it too, it just has slightly more counterplay

If you want to start talking about assassin delays then Leblanc is for you

PoskeMar 2, 20183 votes

I assassinate people within 0.1 seconds with Le blanc consitently even since the W nerfs

So what about Le blanc? How about you all learn how to actually play this champion before crying for reverts eh typical boards

Michael SykesMar 2, 20185 votes

You're obviously wrong.

SaiannaMar 2, 20189 votes

He's not wrong. He's delusional :P

Michael SykesMar 3, 20181 votes

I see...

SuperspickMar 2, 20183 votes

Nah, you don't. Intro Bots don't count.

koshkyraMar 2, 20181 votes

im going to assume you have never played leblanc a single time before after the w nerfs

Ariel the CruelMar 2, 201815 votes

Wow. You/I must be a) playing a squishy b) super far behind Vayne.

Under a second is impressive. Even by LoL standards. XD

GrReaper96Mar 2, 20188 votes

Yeah. She needs 3 hits and max attack speed is 2.5. So actually a little over a second.

TeCoolMageMar 2, 20181 votes

but muh lethal tempo vayne :^)

Z3SleeperMar 2, 20181 votes

Techincally 2 autos and an E works too, so it could potentially be under one second, though nowhere near the damage needed to actually kill anyone, even when fed.

Done25Mar 2, 20181 votes

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Yeah. She needs 3 hits and max attack speed is 2.5. So actually a little over a second.

Depends on if you count the time it takes you to kill her, or the very short time in which you can try and kill her. You know, before she goes invisible and then Condemns you into a wall.

Agent CorgiMar 2, 201815 votes

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xelakerMar 2, 201812 votes

picture unrealistic. you don't have time to hear hello before you die.

Friendly RamMar 2, 20182 votes

Shank you very much. Do long and Shanks for all the fish.

SilverjustMar 3, 20181 votes

Vapor Wave VibesMar 2, 20188 votes

Can say that about all of the assassins after the assassin rework

GelmousMar 2, 20188 votes

i played countless games against vayne and i was never killed in an under a second by her, but fizz with his "delayed" damage that you're claiming can still one shot me

SteelflameMar 2, 20182 votes

I mean delayed and 1 shot are not exclusive. Ult hits. Ult hit primes his W for him, so he can go in with W active as he Qs in and gets the full damage nuke. Thats sort of Fizz's problem actually, he depends so much on that ulti hit because its hard to get his W applied to an enemy otherwise without leaving himself open for 2 seconds.

Sex With AnnieMar 2, 20188 votes

another low-effort adc hate circlejerk thread haha yikes

BârdMar 2, 20185 votes

Back on this circlejerk, are we?

DuskDaUmbreonMar 2, 20185 votes

Clips? Proof? Numbers? Anything relevant to the situation at all?

Or do we just accept your word on it?

The only times I've seen a death in under a second are due to heavily fed Kaynes, Rengars, Mordekaisers, Cho'gaths, or Dravens. Not once have I seen an ADC who wasn't named Draven kill in under a second, and that one was a very close second (about .97).

nighthunter1342Mar 3, 20181 votes

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Clips? Proof? Numbers? Anything relevant to the situation at all?

Or do we just accept your word on it?

The only times I've seen a death in under a second are due to heavily fed Kaynes, Rengars, Mordekaisers, Cho'gaths, or Dravens. Not once have I seen an ADC who wasn't named Draven kill in under a second, and that one was a very close second (about .97).

https://plays.tv/s/LdfMCn_njMgk it's not draven

KrytoricMar 2, 20184 votes

9 times outta 10 fizz will one shot vayne btw

Colton147Mar 2, 20183 votes

Vayne is in a gutted state after her nerfs.

49%-50%: http://na.op.gg/champion/vayne/statistics/adc http://champion.gg/champion/Vayne/ADC?league=

Taliyah RocksMar 2, 201814 votes

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is in a gutted state after her nerfs.

49%-50%: http://na.op.gg/champion/vayne/statistics/adc http://champion.gg/champion/Vayne/ADC?league=

Only when compared to other adcs. The whole adc class is overtuned by itself, obviously when compared to itself some will look weaker than others, while still being strong.

Also adc items are so busted, there's no wonder some high elo players adopted Ahri Leblanc as adc champions with their high mobility. It's crazy to think that adc LB can kill people just as fast/faster AND more reliably than her supposed AP build.

TeCoolMageMar 2, 20181 votes

yeah but the answer is to nerf ADC items, not vayne

Whenever you make an ADC worse than the others, the pool gets smaller, you see the same ADC more often, and the game gets even MORE stale

ChaddyFantomeMar 2, 20183 votes

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Only when compared to other adcs. The whole adc class is overtuned by itself, obviously when compared to itself some will look weaker than others, while still being strong.

Also adc items are so busted, there's no wonder some high elo players adopted as adc champions with their high mobility. It's crazy to think that adc LB can kill people just as fast/faster AND more reliably than her supposed AP build.

I build Statik and iE on Talon now with how busted ADC items are.lol

SteelflameMar 2, 20181 votes

I mean Talon has his Q bonus mini-crit amped by IE anyway, so that isn't exactly special. Its just adding in the Shiv for the 50% chance of a "second" duskblade of sorts.

ActivatingEMPMar 2, 20181 votes

This hurt my soul

1 800 ĄFK FARMMar 2, 20182 votes

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Only when compared to other adcs. The whole adc class is overtuned by itself, obviously when compared to itself some will look weaker than others, while still being strong.

Also adc items are so busted, there's no wonder some high elo players adopted as adc champions with their high mobility. It's crazy to think that adc LB can kill people just as fast/faster AND more reliably than her supposed AP build.

Had no idea about this, that's crazy

HaIlMonitorMar 2, 201818 votes

49%-50%

5th /16 18.85% ADC Vayne Pick Rate

.... GUTTED???? Wtf do you call the 44% winrate champs?

BjørnetjenestenMar 2, 20183 votes

Can vayne take out an entire backline with a longrange shark?

500 + 120% AP dmg on a ranged engage tool for a melee assassin

Daddy AntsMar 2, 20183 votes

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yet can kill you in under a second

No she can't unless she's insanely fed,