[idea] Togglelable Abysal Scepter with two modes

LilxPaprika··1 votes·341 views

Regarding the pbe changes to abyssal scepter.

Idea: Make it toggleable such that in one mode It instantly "immolates" any target that enters its range. A cool down counter is applied to any target affected like udyr stun or yasuo dash with a ring appearing at their feet.

This mode would be preferable over the current pbe form if you are the only one on your team with abyssal. Since that way getting 45% will never take longer than 8 seconds.

Since it could be countered pretty easily. Someone could just wait for your immolation to go off then go in. Thereby avoiding the first wave.

The reason two modes would be good is if you and a team mate wish to stack auras then you can both set it to that mode.

There will be many games where this item will only be purchased by one champion.

In my suggested mode there would be large fiery ring delineating the circumference of the aura. (It would be subtle such that it wouldn't crowd the screen) if you step inside you instantly get hit, a burning visual on the target would indicate this. It would also be cool to just get in range of someone near death to kill them assuming the cool down isn't on them.

In the other mode it would have a more pronounced effect than that of sunfirecape every 4 seconds.

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LilxPaprika1 votes

So i was thinking it could look like Hecarim 's spirit dread aura thingy. with a flame on the outer rim. and maybe a little bit more subtle even.

The thing that bothers me about the new abyssal is that it seems like a sunfire cape item first and a magic pen item second. If I wanted a sunfire cape I can build that. But if I wanted a tanky source of magic pen there are none.

I think by making it more reliable and giving a timer on each target that enters the passive's range it will make it more of a magic pen item first. champions that have good base ap damage but not so great ap ratio and want to just amplify the impact that their kit's base ap dmg deal by piercing through the enemy's defenses. They have the damage in them they just want to enhance it. Champions who would want abyssal: Amumu Diana Poppy Evelynn Elise Mordekaiser champions where you're also likely to get other ap items to complement this magic pen.. as opposed to more tankyness to complement your dps auras.

A magic pen item is designed such that you want to amplify your spell's damage. not just go full tank and rely on your auras to do damage for you. Black cleaver is nice because it helps you auto attack more by helping you stick to your target.

In fact even as a tank that gets item 3068 item 3075 . you already have ample aura damage already. What you need now is the magic pen to complement it not so much another immolation item.

In the same fashion it would be nice if abysal gave you something similar that helped you use your spells more. Cdr would be one such thing. Not quite sure what else. Spell vamp wouldn't be so bad actually (but there are other slots for this). How about a spirit visage passive to it? Its tankier stats do help you survive long enough as well to make it to your second rotation of spells so it has that going for it. Or maybe even a point runner passive could be useful.

LilxPaprika1 votes

what if the aura damage stacked? first hit would deal say 15 dmg (+2.5 per level) (max stacks up to three times)

2.5 x 18(max level) = 45 + 15 = 60
so your first wave/stack deals just 60 damage.

second wave to a target deals 60x2 = 120. third deals 60 times 3 = 180

Currently with 80 (+5 per level) = 170 at level 18.

170 + 170 + 170 + 170 = 680

where as the stacking version would deal 60 + 120 + 180 + 180 = 540

thats over 12 seconds.

if over 8 seconds: 170x 3 = 510 vs 60+120+180 = 360

New description could go like:

UNIQUE Passive:Every 4 seconds emanates a pulse dealing 15 (+2.5 per champion level) magic damage to nearby enemy champions with each consecutive pulse dealing the precedent pulse's damage cumulatively (up to 3 times; example 60/120/180 dmg at lvl 18). Each pulse also reduces an enemy champion's Magic Resist by 15% for 10 seconds (stacks up to 3 times, up to 45%)

the progression of the damage will be further felt as your magic resistance is further reduced with each stack (making the each consecutive wave even more pronounced and making the ring indicator even more useful to warn champions which stack they are on perhaps like gnar's passive rings) maybe just have one ring with a timer that gets brighter with each stack on it.

**but now you have point runner as well or spirit visage passive **which helps you use your champion's kit more effectively. Rely less on your abyssal for damage and more on your spells/or items like item 3068 item 3075 and instead can use its new passive for the utility it provides (pointrunner) or survivability (spirit visage).

feel free to suggest other neat passives.

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