In one of my games a Zac keeps camping me as veigar. I had my sides warded and I was ready to dodge his E. But I often ends up stucking in my catser minions and walking back and forth, and I had to flash away quite a few times because of it.
Anyone find this annoying?
Ralanr4 votesIt's annoying, but it's a reminder that you need to get better at positioning.
The Deckowner4 votesI mean, I am a small yordle and I am standing beside 3 catser minions...Not sure why I can't just a)go staright through the space between them or b)loop around them, and have to walk back and forth in the middle of 3 caster minions.
Ralanr2 votesAnd I'm a big undead zombie with an axe/a giant goo man/other big champion. I should be able to step over some minions but I can't.
The Deckowner6 votesRalanr6 votes
DeathBot6661 votesYou're evil. Just execute your minions for interfering with your world domination and move on.
Zero Skill Tank11 votesIt's annoying and nothing else, because there is no reasonable way to tell when it will happen. It would be OK mechanic, if it was at least consistent.
Emojay3 votes........creep block.....
The Deckowner3 votes
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Sidiious3 votesIt annoyed the shit out of me when I played a flying god (Sol) only to be minion blocked by grounded insignificant beings.
Theorchero2 votesMinion block is fucking AIDS this season.
As GP I ROUTINELY miss cs and take harass because I try to move forward to grab a cs only to get fucking stuck and have a seizure on my minions.
It's gotten me killed more than once and it's fucking STUPID.
PhDs Nuts2 votes"I'm an enemy cannon minion. I could keep shooting your melee minions from perfect safety right here OH WAIT I'M GONNA ROLL AROUND THEM INTO TURRET RANGE AND GET EXECUTED FOR NO REASON"
lofi n chillhop1 votesit's a tool you can either use to your advantage or die to because you don't respect it. hehe.
The Deckowner1 votesIt's not a tool, but rather a hazard, when it is unpredictable and uncontrollable.
lofi n chillhop1 votesit is only unpredictable if you don't take the time to understand what it is, and what you can do to use it to your advantage.
crippler381 voteswhat about when that one minion randomly decides to chase you for no reason?
Adriqnohee3 votesYou killed thousands of his brothers in arms, perhaps even family members, how can you say he doesn't have a reason?
lofi n chillhop1 votesthe reason they chase you is because you drew minion aggro, and they have passed your minion line so don't have anything to drop aggro for. it's very predictable actually, you probably just aren't noticing well enough how minions choose what target to go after.
be patient and observant and you will learn with time, young padowan :P
crippler381 votesI never touched anyone besides the minion wave 1. 2 I was behind caster minions. 3, it was a caster minion that followed me until it touched my melee minions.
The Deckowner1 votesYou simply can not fully underatand the system, even Rito themselves said the coding for minion AI and hitbox is pretty messed up it's hard to make any change.
lofi n chillhop1 votesare you not a human, with this tool called the brain which is very strong at noticing patterns intuitively?
I have no issue understanding minion behavior and how to avoid losing because of it, and how to use it to my advantage. to be honest, it is a much simpler system than understanding human decision making. and yet I also work to try to predict what my teammates and enemies will do, in attempts to outsmart my peers and rise elo faster than others do.
when the discussion is, "riot your system is too hard, it makes me lose" my response will always be "sorry dude but the reason you are having difficulty is you, and your giving up and not trying"
it is true that the minion blocking is kind of lackluster, and should be worked on. but all of the arguments for why this should change don't have anything to do with predictability. well, there are a few things that are unpredictable, such as minion aggro in the first wave dramatically affecting the wave, but riot has done multiple things to fix this. but the biggest issues with minion decision making, is, in fact, quite predictable and consistent in when they happen and why.
understanding minions is an important skill in league of legends for many reasons, from manipulating waves to understanding how to use them to your advantage to trade, to, yes, abusing their position to use creep block to your advantage and not get trapped by it. these are all things that any league player needs to improve their skills and understanding if they want to improve at the game.
The Deckowner2 votesLUL someone talking about mechanics of the game that was 100% made up by themselves.
Sire Hippington1 votesIt depends pon the situation. I also had many situations in which creepblock helped me or my oponent to escape. And generally, i rarly have issues with it when playing a ranged champ like veigar. There is no reason to ever get into a position where creepblock fucks you as ranged, if that happens it was a mistake of your own positioning aswell as the creepblock. As melee it's alot worse, as you have to get past your minion line in order to cs, so chances are you get stuck in them when you want to retreat.
