Karthus still has no compensation buffs on the PBE for the Rylai's nerf.

1 800 GGTOOEZ··4 votes·1,031 views

For a champion whose entire existence in patch notes has just been nerf after nerf after nerf after nerf and hasn't seen competitive play in ages, why are there no compensation buffs for one of his core items getting nerfed? I'm not a biased player, it just makes no sense.

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Big Lincoln7 votes

You guys thought he needed compensation buffs for Edge of Night, too

get out lol

Marshbouy3 votes

Maybe riot wants to know what to buff about him first?

Erockandroll1 votes

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Maybe riot wants to know what to buff about him first?

Riot has stated that they want to know, "What exactly feels bad?" They don't appreciate specific suggestions.

Perhaps you should actually play the champ yourself, instead of just speculating about it.

Quepha3 votes

The thing is, Karthus is still strong.

CaptainFapton1 votes

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The thing is, Karthus is still strong.

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Oh he's serious.

https://gyazo.com/12bb4c82f18826ec023d0dedc0037bfe < (Plat+)

https://gyazo.com/6664d2b78d52f9a234ede6e9b67df3d4 < (Btw this was in challenger)

Quepha2 votes

{quoted}

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Oh he's serious.

https://gyazo.com/12bb4c82f18826ec023d0dedc0037bfe < (Plat+)

https://gyazo.com/6664d2b78d52f9a234ede6e9b67df3d4 < (Btw this was in challenger)

Stats for top lane which is not his best lane and stats for challenger which is an incredibly small sample size with massive variance from day to day.

You have clearly made a manipulative post to support a false claim. You should be ashamed.

CaptainFapton1 votes

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Stats for top lane which is not his best lane and stats for challenger which is an incredibly small sample size with massive variance from day to day.

You have clearly made a manipulative post to support a false claim. You should be ashamed.

That at the time was not his top lane stats. You clearly are stupid and should not feel the need to reply. FEEL ASHAMED xd.

On as serious note just stop you've been silver on more then one season. And being silver is basically bronze V2.0 don't go around slinging that bs. You're bad xdddd

CaptainFapton1 votes

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Stats for top lane which is not his best lane and stats for challenger which is an incredibly small sample size with massive variance from day to day.

Day to day per EACH PATCH KEY WORD. Look at the bottom.

1 800 GGTOOEZ2 votes

Bump.

Leo10241 votes

imo summoner 3 with you wall will almost always be enough for an early kill, the only buff is his auto attacks because holy shit cs'ing is a nightmare with the guy

Marshbouy3 votes

Never found CSing hard on him after level 2. Q-E then you can CS for dayz

Leo10242 votes

and then you have no mana for dayz

Quepha2 votes

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and then you have no mana for dayz

Read his E.

Leo10242 votes

i know what it does but you'll still be manaless if you spam Q, it also only works when it's not activated

Quepha4 votes

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i know what it does but you'll still be manaless if you spam Q, it also only works when it's not activated

Not if you're actually last hitting. This is and always has been core to playing Karthus.

Mecha MaIphite4 votes

What do you mean? His autos are AoE, and always crit against single targets. Sure, it costs a bit of mana, and you can miss it, but that's a small price to pay.

Marshbouy4 votes

as long as you last hit with the autos they refund mana. I think you might lose 10-15 a spell at most but a dorans+passive regen easily covers that.

Leo10241 votes

you mean his Q? and you generally wanna focus on harass, besides you'll waste so much mana constantly using it

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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you mean his Q? and you generally wanna focus on harass,

Stopped reading.

Your elo is showing.

Leo10242 votes

spamming it will leave you manaless, and silver is a glorified bronze, your elo is just as trash as mine

ChaddyFantome2 votes

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spamming it will leave you manaless,

Why are you spamming it then?

and silver is a glorified bronze, your elo is just as trash as mine

I don't remember flexing my elo.

Karthus Q should primarily be used for farming, and then harass when a window presents itself. if you are focusing on harass before farming you are doing ti wrong, especially early before you have any mana items.

Leo10241 votes

and if you use it for every single creep because o doubt there'll be too at the same health, you have no mana by the second wave

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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and if you use it for every single creep because o doubt there'll be too at the same health, you have no mana by the second wave

First off, that is horse shit. The mana refund from E + item 1056 makes this impossible.

Secondly, who said anything about using it for every single creep tho?

ChaddyFantome1 votes

Or , you could learn how to land your Qs?

Mokkun1 votes

Karthus survived just fine, long before Rylai's became "core." Hell the idea of it being core still feels weird to me. Of course, his Q used to not telegraph the shit out of its area the way it does now, which made it slightly easier to land. His wall slow was stronger as well.

But if they were to ever give a real QoL/buff to him, I'd say they should up his E. It's been a long time since it felt meaningful as damage. And its damage never felt meaningful at low level. You just get it for the mana refund, and that's kinda lame.

Catastrop1 votes

Rylai's wasn't even that core on Karthus.

1 800 GGTOOEZ1 votes

Bump

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