K so when is Elise getting gutted?
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bitchy bronzies always complaining about "op" champs :,) i love reading the boards
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[{quoted}](name=Maya Fey,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y3WnUm2y,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-07-25T18:37:24.223+0000)
I'm 8 divisions higher than you shitter.
I can see why you're upset when your opponent with their Elise went 0-8-4 with less than half the CS of your Eve (so well known for her clear speeds right?) in the opposing jungle, her clear speed is clearly too oppressive, better nerf Elise.
[{quoted}](name=Maya Fey,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y3WnUm2y,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2015-07-25T18:44:05.481+0000)
Her damage is insane right now.
You're really that butthurt about your 1 death? All I'm getting from you is that you think Eve needs massive nerfs.
I can see why you're upset when your opponent with their Elise went 0-8-4 with less than half the CS of your Eve (so well known for her clear speeds right?) in the opposing jungle, her clear speed is clearly too oppressive, better nerf Elise.
That Elise had 1 game of Elise compared to my near 500 Eve games this season alone. Not sure what you're on about since Eve was just trounced this patch and is objectively weaker than Elise in nearly every way.\
This thread has nothing to do with that game.
[{quoted}](name=Maya Fey,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y3WnUm2y,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2015-07-25T18:46:50.562+0000)
That Elise had 1 game of Elise over my near 500 Eve games this season alone. Not sure what you're on about since Eve was just trounced this patch and is objectively weaker than Elise in nearly every way.
"Objectively" has 493 eve games with second most played champ being soraka at 43 and continued drop off...Yes I can see you're in a position to say "objectively". Frankly I don't care about Eve but Elise is far from the most oppressive jungler atm and is fairly weak. Also IDC how many games that guy played as her he's in the same rating as you WHILE doing stuff like this, you're only there by playing one champ over and over, results are the same the guy got stomped and you cried cause he did "too much damage" to you once. Also of course he has no games as her, he's probably a former Elise main that couldn't even play her til now due to her being too weak!
"Objectively" has 493 eve games with second most played champ being soraka at 43 and continued drop off...Yes I can see you're in a position to say "objectively".
Stats wise? Yeah, Elise is better.
[{quoted}](name=Maya Fey,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y3WnUm2y,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2015-07-25T18:46:50.562+0000)
That Elise had 1 game of Elise compared to my near 500 Eve games this season alone. Not sure what you're on about since Eve was just trounced this patch and is objectively weaker than Elise in nearly every way.\
This thread has nothing to do with that game.
Eve was crushed, I don't even understand why either. Anyways, yea Elise needs to be toned back down... Cocoon needs 1.5 at all ranks like it was before patch 4.4 and her spiderlings keep the new ratio but go back to physical damage (or possibly a base physical damage + bonuss magic damage from the ap ratio), I think that would pretty much fix her, and put her in a good spot. If she's still too strong I'd change cocoon from a stun to a snare. She's honestly REALLY close to being balanced they just need to tweak her numbers a bit.
Eve needs her nerfs reverted.... like yesterday.
She's been gutted/reworked bad already.
She's been gutted/reworked bad already.
Looks like she needs it again bud.
No she doesn't!
She was just buffed, because she was gutted beyond repair. Frankly she's good how she is.
She was just buffed, because she was gutted beyond repair. Frankly she's good how she is.
She was good last patch. The buff on her stun was COMPLETELY un-needed. At most the spiderlings doing magic damage was ok. Her being at a sudden 55% winrate in plat+ is stupid as fuck, she needs her E toned down pronto.
[{quoted}](name=Maya Fey,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y3WnUm2y,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-07-25T18:33:47.776+0000)
She was good last patch. The buff on her stun was COMPLETELY un-needed. At most the spiderlings doing magic damage was ok. Her being at a sudden 55% winrate in plat+ is stupid as fuck, she needs her E toned down pronto.
She was not good last patch. She might be too good now but in absolutely no way was her state last patch acceptable.
[{quoted}](name=Maya Fey,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y3WnUm2y,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-07-25T18:33:47.776+0000)
She was good last patch. The buff on her stun was COMPLETELY un-needed. At most the spiderlings doing magic damage was ok. Her being at a sudden 55% winrate in plat+ is stupid as fuck, she needs her E toned down pronto.
Nah.. it was needed, they went a bit overboard with it... but let's be serious she was one of the worst junglers in the game until this patch, and nearly every stat supports it. I still think they should just revert the cocoon to pre-4.4 and have it 1.5 at all ranks.
So salty about a 1.6 second stun.
It's like you never heard of

Yeah, cause I've got all that shit when she dives me at level 3. That stun is strong early, and CC avoidance items aren't.
She got overbuffed... but I mean come on, gutted?... Get out of here. Pretty much every devourer jungler is a bigger issue than she is right now.
As soon as she's stronger than she should be.
She's still too weak.
early season 4
early season 4
Yah let's ignore the monster buffs she just got. Ok bud.
Why gut her again? She just needs a whole new revamp on the ratios of her spells. Atm it seems like she's just a cocoon bot.
Why gut her again? She just needs a whole new revamp on the ratios of her spells. Atm it seems like she's just a cocoon bot.
Her damage is insane right now.
Honestly you sound like a Vayne player, you sure you didn't miss your calling?
Honestly you sound like a Vayne player, you sure you didn't miss your calling?
Considering I want Vayne deleted?
Fixing Elise -cocoon is now a 1.5 second stun at all tanks
-spiderling damage is now physical base damage with bonus ap damage based on her ap
-spiderbomb damage is reduced by 30% but gains 30% damage if the target is slowed or CCed in any way