Untargetable soldiers destroying my wards has SO much counterplay

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Yeah... this doesn't make too much sense. Azir doesn't need nerfs, he needs help.

He doesn't need either. His spot right now is perfect - buffing him will lead to nothing but big nerfs.

Ok that's a much better way of saying it, and i can see the random power argument.

Although I don't think champions get overloaded from accumulation of minor strengths.

It's when doing one thing you're able to do doesn't restrict you properly from doing other things that champions get overloaded.

For instance, one could think Nidalee is overloaded because poking me all day long doesn't do anything to drain her dueling capabilities.

Overloading a kit is done by giving them too many fallbacks in my opinion. Like, to me Ekko looks really overloaded, because if his slow doesn't land then his stun will, and if his stun doesn't land then he'll just dashblink in anyway. And of course he gets both bonus combo damage and bonus excecute damage.

And nothing he does will ever restrict him from healing up and disengaging all at once (except from positioning so that his disengage will instead be a huge nuke).

So i'm fine with Azir leaving one out of three soldiers somewhere else for a little while. Especially if his W and CDR aren't maxed out yet.

He still pays for his range, and has to use one ability to get it in the first place, another if he wants to extend it further from his current position.

Caitlyn does not have to allocate any strategic resource to clear a ward, and only gets 175 less range (before Azir uses his Q or moves further away from the ward)

A low mana cost ability with an effective CD of at least 4.8 seconds (with max rank and 40% CDR) sounds about right for getting 300 range.

And that's really all you're getting against a ward.

I guess I'll leave it (at least for the night) with my opinion being that if Azir's safety due to his soldiers is to be discussed, it shouldn't be on the basis of his ward killing prowess.

If Azir is unbalancedly put together or not comes down to whether his Siege is too strong/weak, whether his Teamfighting potential is too strong/weak, or whether his safety in extreme potential range and chase/escape capabilities give him too many strengths and too few weaknesses.

My overly long post on a verry little relevant topic tells me that the clock is right in that I should've gone to bed 3 hours ago. <.<

So i'ma go do that.

P.S.

What's Azir's actual potential max range, including his soldiers' individual range?

Couldn't find it on the wiki.