Now that everybody can get Yasuo's 100% crit powerspike for less than 6k gold, can we rework crit?

WoonStruck·12/26/2019, 2:45:00 AM·7 votes·1,401 views

item 3031 item 1018 x3 is only 5800g. 200 less than Yasuo's 6k powerspike, except its on ranged champs. Like Cait.

Tell me how this idea was passed by ANYBODY on the balance or design team, and anybody with oversight over them.

A fucking intern out of college could tell you to make crit cloak unique like components such as Kindlegem, or Fiendish Codex.

#Why is it that a college intern would likely do a better job than the people who have been working for Riot for 5+ years?

######You know its a shitty company when seniority is what lets people keep their jobs through TERRIBLE fuck-ups, which seem to keep happening, may I remind you.

17 Comments

HamburgerJunior12/26/2019, 2:54:05 AM4 votes

I feel like a much, much better question is Why is crit even still in this game? This is one of the most popular competitive online games out there and it uses an inconsistent ass mechanic that's completely based on RNG. Honestly, I've been preaching this since season 2 and i'll never stop. Because it's stupid, crit makes the game worse, any small amount of build diversity it adds falls very far short of justifying it still being in the game. I just don't get it, I thought back in like S2-S3 that they'd remove it as the game got more popular and then they did some stupid shit like double down on it instead.

The thigh guy12/26/2019, 2:56:44 AM2 votes

Here’s the difference. Yasuo is getting 2k gold basically for free. Adcs are having to actively build it. And they are sacrificing their attack speed to do this which is lowering their over all dps.

DuskDaUmbreon12/26/2019, 3:00:21 AM2 votes

So you rush that, then....what? You have some AD, 100% crit chance, some extra crit damage...but no goddamn attack speed and none of the bonuses from various zeal items.

I've seen this build....once. It worked like shit. Granted, it could be good, but I sincerely doubt that. This seems more like some theoretical build that looks good at first but ends up being ultimately shit, like that 6 BC with Transcendence.

[IE] [Cloak] x3 is only 5800g. 200 less than Yasuo's 6k powerspike, except its on ranged champs. Like Cait.

This is incredibly deceptive of a statement. Yasuo's powerspike is item 3031 item 3046. But if we only count 100% crit as his "spike", he hits it at item 3031 item 1018. The thing is, since his actual spike is 2 complete items, maybe that's a good indication that simply hitting 100% crit isn't that powerful of a spike if you have absolutely nothing besides an IE to back it up.

iiGazeii12/26/2019, 3:15:25 AM2 votes

item 1018 item 1018 is 100% crit in 1600 gold. How's that for a power spike?

Salty Mc Feed12/26/2019, 3:21:25 AM1 votes

Well the price might need to be adjusted.

V9.23 Critical strike chance increased to 25% from 20%. Now builds into Stormrazor item Stormrazor and Zeal item Zeal. V9.3- Re-added COST: Gold 800. STATS: 20% critical strike chance. TIER: Basic item. BUILDS INTO: Essence Reaver item Essence Reaver and Infinity Edge item Infinity Edge. V8.11 - Removed Removed from the game. V6.15 Removed from recipe for Lord Van Damm's Pillager item Lord Van Damm's Pillager. V5.22 Item cost increased to Gold 800 from Gold 730. Critical strike chance increased to 20% from 15%.

Once upon a time it used to be 15% crit for 730 gold. Now its 25% crit for 800 gold.

I don't know if it really is too good, could be, or maybe the cloak just used to be really shitty....

I wouldn't call it a "Yasuo powerspike" though and your comparison is terribly flawed

FOR JUSTICE12/26/2019, 3:36:22 AM1 votes
  1. ADC's have to actually spend money to get that powerspike

  2. its kind of hard to just project people will stack the same items. this is why 6 cleaver zed, 6 sunfire, and such were legitimate builds.

Saevum12/26/2019, 10:17:37 AM1 votes

This is Yas vintage core purchase: item 3031item 3086 item 1053 item 1001

3400g + 1400g + 900 + 300g

6000g total, and viable. He doesn't even need to cap it asap to be effective.


Made a thread years ago around season 4 or 5. CT champ. I eventually learned that you need to let it go. And forgive yourself for being naive.

Skia Asteri12/26/2019, 7:09:48 PM1 votes

item 1042 gives a 1% increase to theoretical auto attack DPS per 25 gold. item 1018 gives a 1% increase to theoretical auto attack DPS per 32 gold if you do not have item 3031 . item 1018 gives a 1% increase to theoretical auto attack DPS per 25.396825396825(infinitely repeating 396825) gold if you do have item 3031 .

These numbers are for champions that interact with these stats in a standard manner.

5050BS12/26/2019, 8:42:56 PM1 votes

EVERY thing in this game is predictable numbers but Crit. Riot needs to make Crit Predicable.

Xin Zhao's crit and Panth Q Crit is how it should be.

Ever X attacks is double damage Double damage when target is under/Over X % HPs Double damage when ability is charges to X charge. Double damage when ability is leveled X

Not this RNG shit

Like Both Yasuo and Tryn passive should be based off of Level.

So Yasuo does % bonus damage as he levels to the point of lvl 8 he is +100% bonus damage Tryn is as he gains Rage he gains Bonus Damage that scales with Level

No more of this "Lucky" RNG shit