Outside of getting 2000 stacks, fiora usually scales better than nasus late game

SquashCannon·Jun 1, 2017·9 votes·1,751 views

So why is his lane phase absolute dogshit compared to hers where she can actually do stuff and even all in at lvl 3?

EDIT

Yes, I understand people, he's not a late game scaler. He was originally designed to be one and he WAS one, until riot dropped the cane on his wither and nerfed it's attack speed cripple by 50% (fun fact, his wither used to cripple just as much as it slowed, and he was the king of late game duels with that).

22 Comments

Jo0oJun 1, 20174 votes

lol you said his lane is dogshit

and he's a dog

tC0gzVJ6rFJun 1, 20172 votes

Because she also isnt an insane mega tank that becomes impossible to kill while also doing insane damage. She just does the insane damage and trades the tankyness with mobility

CochoJun 1, 20172 votes

nasus isnt a late game champ (outside of bronze)

SquashCannonJun 1, 20173 votes

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nasus isnt a late game champ (outside of bronze)

has nothing to do with the actual issue at hand.

JoxcabJun 1, 20172 votes

Because Nasus is extremely old and outdated and was designed when the meta was different.

Pippen The ShortJun 1, 20172 votes

No? Unless Fiora snowballs early and gets way ahead of Susan, Fiora doesn't stand a chance late game. I have never lost a game to a Fiora I didn't lose to in lane. If I get to 400+ stacks by 20 minutes and Fiora still hasn't killed me, no way I lose to her late game, and I never have. I have better healing potential, better damage potential, and better defensive stats.

SquashCannonJun 1, 20172 votes

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No? Unless Fiora snowballs early and gets way ahead of Susan, Fiora doesn't stand a chance late game. I have never lost a game to a Fiora I didn't lose to in lane. If I get to 400+ stacks by 20 minutes and Fiora still hasn't killed me, no way I lose to her late game, and I never have. I have better healing potential, better damage potential, and better defensive stats.

learn to read

Pippen The ShortJun 1, 20172 votes

Learn to write? You post is very unclear in the manner of how you're comparing them. The post can easily be taken as an in lane one vs. one scenario. Which in that situation, Nasus is the hands down winner.

Also, Fiora is easier to snowball with compared to Nasus. But overall Nasus is a much better champion mid game and on compared to Fiora.

Besides, trying to compare Nasus and Fiora is a bit uneven. Nasus is primarily built to either push lanes, or front line in teamfights for the team. Fiora on the other hand is for dueling and diving back lanes for a quick kill on an ADC, pop her ult's kill passive, and then snowball the rest of the fight. So outside of top lane as their main lane, their roles and kits are very different in a team setting.

SquashCannonJun 2, 20171 votes

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Learn to write? You post is very unclear in the manner of how you're comparing them. The post can easily be taken as an in lane one vs. one scenario. Which in that situation, Nasus is the hands down winner.

Also, Fiora is easier to snowball with compared to Nasus. But overall Nasus is a much better champion mid game and on compared to Fiora.

Besides, trying to compare Nasus and Fiora is a bit uneven. Nasus is primarily built to either push lanes, or front line in teamfights for the team. Fiora on the other hand is for dueling and diving back lanes for a quick kill on an ADC, pop her ult's kill passive, and then snowball the rest of the fight. So outside of top lane as their main lane, their roles and kits are very different in a team setting.

It can only be misconstrued by those with malicious intent or those who have yet to learn to read. I have faith in the inherent goodness of humanity so I assumed the latter for you.

The grammar is crystal clear. It is a side by side comparison on the scaling and lane phases of two champions.

Just Blame JennyJun 1, 20172 votes

Nasus is mid-game.

Also, Fiora is a duelist. Nasus is just a big stick.

He pushes harder.

SquashCannonJun 2, 20172 votes

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Nasus is mid-game.

Also, Fiora is a duelist. Nasus is just a big stick.

He pushes harder.

nasus is just as much a dueler as fiora is. His entire kit is based around singling a champion out and beating them to death unless you're going AP troll.

Elkington VIJun 2, 20172 votes

I just hate how you HAVE to stomp her or you basically lose the lane, but if you screw up and she gets a kill (which isn't that hard to do) you still lose. There is too much pressure to stop her early on, when she's not exactly a pushover in lane. People keep saying she's bad in teamfights, but her teamfighting doesn't seem any worse than most non-tank/non-Tryndamere melees that go top.

Death by GlamourJun 1, 20171 votes

Because Susan isn't that great late game besides split pushing

SquashCannonJun 1, 20173 votes

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Because Susan isn't that great late game besides split pushing

has nothing to do with my question.

Critmaster GarenJun 1, 20171 votes

what mastery are you running? and what item build?

nasus should shit on fiora, when he wins lane or goes even.

KoKobotoJun 1, 20174 votes

Nasus does beat Fiora in lane but who said anything about them being in the same game? Nasus needs some buffs, his mid-game isn't as strong anymore and his late game is non-existent. OP is saying it's lame how Fiora can do well throughout the whole game where Nasus has to deal with below average early, kinda above average mid and below average late.

SquashCannonJun 1, 20173 votes

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what mastery are you running? and what item build?

nasus should shit on fiora, when he wins lane or goes even.

this has nothing to do with nasus vs fiora, it's a side by side comparison.

In most scenarios, fiorahas a better early and late than nasus.

Just because nasus in particular counters fiora and can shit on her in that specific matchup doesnt make him overall better.

AhristocatsJun 2, 20171 votes

Lol no

SlythionJun 1, 20171 votes

Nasus a late game champ? that was awhile ago, now he's a E spamming doggo with a respectable laning phase where he just pushes

King of DemonsJun 2, 20171 votes

Nasus is pretty much a midgame champion. He is the strongest when he can actually tank a team for a little bit, which simply isn't the case at full builds.

Fiora on the other hand only gets better as tme goes on.

Hexs FortuneJun 2, 20171 votes

Nasus is mid game now, and only vs certain matchups

I agree fiora is too much right now. She's perma banned in my games, so it doesn't affect me

Ravenous HowlsJun 2, 20171 votes

Outside of your title being inherently wrong or just woefully exaggerated I do agree that Fiora has a much stronger time early-late game than Nasus does. Fiora is one of those annoying champs that can get away with using BC as a core part of her build. Mix in a Ravenous Hydra and she now has better sustain and pen then Nasus, not excusing the fact she has %max health damage as TRUE damage in her abilities.

However that's a lot of Gold to become stronger than Nasus and for that she does need kills and in this way she is gated in a way Nasus is not. Many lane bully champs work this way as well. Without early kills they essentially can not get the items they need to take over the lane or roam for kills successfully.