The Real Reason I Dislike The Role Selection System

Best Ekko NA··1 votes·592 views

I was a huge hater of the old Ranked system (where you had to beg your team to have your role in chat). When Dynamic queue was released I was really excited because I realized that I no longer had to play Support every game (yay). The thing is however, when I was unable to get another role (I'm not terrible at any of them) I was always willing to be that person who would pick up the slack and play support. With the introduction of Dynamic queue there no longer was that "in between" or variety of roles. The is perhaps the biggest thing I hate about Dynamic queue.

In my experience with Dynamic queue, when you queue solo at low ELO's (Bronze - Gold), essentially any time you pick Fill or Support as your Primary or even Secondary.. you get Support literally about 99% of the time. The reason behind this is simple, secondary role selection isn't weighted correctly. Right now the way the system decides what role you are put in appears to be based on Supply & Demand. The problem with that is there are less Support players than other roles which means Support has the highest weight even if you choose it as your Secondary role. Picking Support (or Fill) as your Secondary almost 99% guarantees that you are going to be forced to Support which in turn creates EVEN LESS players picking Support (and Fill) because players will quickly understand that having Support ANYWHERE in your selection automatically makes you the Support (and will in turn pick something else instead).

The way to fix this is to change it so that Primary role has a high weight in the system and Secondary has lower deciding factor in what role you get. When you indicate "Primary" role you are saying you WANT that role above the other(s). The system needs to acknowledge this a bit better than what it currently does. I also believe the Fill roles needs to give a FIXED CHANCE (20%) of role selection instead of basing what role you get upon Supply and Demand. Of the predetermined choices I really think if a player is willing to Fill that it should have a HIGHER PRIORITY than players who have pre-selected their roles. When a queue is being analyzed I think the system should decide the Filled players role FIRST and then check how it could fit the other players into the queue. Logically this might seem backwards (because the player said they'd play anything), however the system can always find another candidate for whatever role is needed and this would also make for a MUCH more enjoyable experience.

As someone who actually would prefer Filling, the way the system decides things now is simply not a good method of "Fill".

I hope the system can be re-evaluated in the future to make for a more enjoyable role selection.

6 Comments

SGT Dingle Berry2 votes

Don't wanna be forced to play support? Stop clicking fill.

LXII1 votes

This has been said like 6,000 times before.

Best Ekko NA1 votes

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This has been said like 6,000 times before.

True but if it doesn't keep getting posted Riot won't care.

LXII1 votes

Unfortunately there isn't a good fix because fill literally means you're down for whatever, and in low elo nobody else wants to play support. So the guy that's down for anything gets it.

Chalizard1 votes

I don't get it, how do you want to fix that when actually primary role has bigger priority but it doesn't help when there are for 50 players looking for game like 2 willing to pick support so option "fill" has to give support role if you want to ever find a game. In higher elo it rather better, I have still often support but also often mid and sometimes top. If you don't want to play support just don't pick support nor fill.

Best Ekko NA1 votes

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I don't get it, how do you want to fix that when actually primary role has bigger priority but it doesn't help when there are for 50 players looking for game like 2 willing to pick support so option "fill" has to give support role if you want to ever find a game. In higher elo it rather better, I have still often support but also often mid and sometimes top. If you don't want to play support just don't pick support nor fill.

Well the thing is, the majority of the player base is between Bronze & Gold.. there are TONS of players that will have Fill / Support. My solution doesn't stop a Filled player from getting Support. That's what most people probably won't understand from reading this. There will be hundreds of people looking for Support at any given time if not even more than that. There will be a lot more people wanting to queue for the other roles sure but Fill players shouldn't be "punished" so to speak by having to Support every single game just because no one wants to Support. If anything they should change lower ELO's to be like higher tiers and force players into "auto filling" the Support role against their own selection choice if they don't play enough of other roles.

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