even tho urgots ult shows "9999" damage, thanks to freaks like vandiril we know its higher. (watch his 8 hour long custom game where he urgot ulted a sion with over 100.000 hp, it still executed him) so yeah deaths dance + urgot ult = full hp.
edit: doesnt matter that it is a dummy. urgot ult always does 999.999 true dmg no matter the target (it just shows 9999) and you heal for 15% of damage DEALT
Critmaster Garen15 votesthats a training dummy with 10 000 health.
edit.: wait shit. i think urgots ult deals like 999999 true damage or something like that. yea, that is probably an issue, lol.
Critmaster Garen10 votesLMAO this works with gunblade too.
did the mechanics change this patch, or has just nobody discovered that interaction since urgots rework? that would be hilarious.
Arammus1 votesi didnt know gunblade heals true damage dealt aswell? to be fair, gunblade urgot sounds like something noone would ever try lol
Critmaster Garen3 votesi didnt know gunblade heals true damage dealt aswell? to be fair, gunblade urgot sounds like something noone would ever try lol
well, i just tried it in a practise game and the ult healed me to full because of gunblade.
the funny thing is, spellvamp working on true damage is nothing new. its long been known that it works on smite for example. its crazy that in such a large community no one ever thought of gunblade on urgot since his rework.
Rìveń1 votesDidn't they remove the spellvamp-smite interaction a few years back? Specifically due to Lee Sin I believe, who'd W for up to 25% spell vamp and then hit the smite.
Edit: Yep
V6.1 "No longer applies spell effects such as Rylai's Crystal Scepter item Rylai's Crystal Scepter or spell vamp."
Bobloser35551 votesGunblade is all damage.
5050BS1 votes
works on all of Urgots abilities other then W
When fighting he constantly is burring his target for 1.5-2.5% their max HPs and his Ult burns the full duration making his execute % range be 32.5% of their max hps.
His leg blasts proc it.
TomiMan71 votessince liandries procs on spells....
Sire Hippington11 votesthat's not new, but going gunblade has a big trade off on the like of urgot or pyke so not a common thing. DD however is already a rather usefull item on them...
2Charmnot2Charm1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XiQiGXs8,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-12-05T15:49:11.109+0000)
LMAO this works with gunblade too.
did the mechanics change this patch, or has just nobody discovered that interaction since urgots rework? that would be hilarious.
I legit thought gunblade was only Physical and Magic damage dealt lmao, i don't know how we didn't see gunblade on urgot pop up in games he can get away with building it in!
Here's a quick test to confirm it works lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIrRjJUb_8U&feature=youtu.be
Edit: Didn't see your later message woops, oh well vid for anyone too lazy to check in game.
BoilTheOil1 voteswould that mean ravenous hunter would work with urgot ulti also?
Critmaster Garen1 voteswould that mean ravenous hunter would work with urgot ulti also?
probably, yes. its just another form of spellvamp.
so theyre probably going to have to do something about his ult interaction with the stat, instead of deaths dance in this case.
Z3Sleeper1 votesI've tried Ravenous in the past and it didn't work. Never knew Gunblade worked with it though. That's a major oversight.
5050BS1 votesIts part of the change they made.
Pierce The Veal7 voteseven tho urgots ult shows "9999" damage, thanks to freaks like vandiril we know its higher. (watch his 8 hour long custom game where he urgot ulted a sion with over 100.000 hp, it still executed him) so yeah deaths dance + urgot ult = full hp.
edit: doesnt matter that it is a dummy. urgot ult always does 999.999 true dmg no matter the target (it just shows 9999) and you heal for 15% of damage DEALT
You are wrong
Urgot’s ult does NOT deal outright 999,999 damage. It incrementally increases the true damage until it kills the target. Hence this only works with the target dummy. There’s a reason nobody ever built gunblade on him or took ravenous hunter. Both of these do heal from his ult. Use that big brain of yours and think, why would nobody take these if they auto heal urgot to full health? Or why not just google it?
It’s because it only heals that much if the target has enough hp, ahem, aka when the target is a training dummy.
BeatzBoyFTW6 votesIt did said "heals from **all **damage".
FOR JUSTICE4 votesbut whats the theoretical damage for an execution such as veigars, garens, cho gaths, or darius? if its regarded as true damage, then say you have 400 health, take 400 true damage, which means they would heal for that full 400.
Critmaster Garen1 votesbut whats the theoretical damage for an execution such as veigars, garens, cho gaths, or darius? if its regarded as true damage, then say you have 400 health, take 400 true damage, which means they would heal for that full 400.
400 health chunk heals on the ultimates if you invest into that are fine though.
i mean a lot of other champions just do this with regular lifesteal and auto attacks.
FOR JUSTICE1 votes
UwU
if pyke executes at that threshold, dear god that would suck, also vlad just cause he's vlad.
EthreainAmbusher2 votes( 
) Ashe is really good for lifesteal too, healing about ~40 per shot w/ items and with 
's healing with 
, she becomes a really high sustain champion
(Imagine Teemo with DD, healing from across the map while invisibly hiding in your red buff.. silently waiting.) [vlad-salute]
KurtCoVayne v11 votesTeemo can already do that with Gunblade and it gives x2 stats of DD with -100 gold
Critmaster Garen5 voteswait, but this means this should have always worked with gunblade too, doesnt it? or does gunblades omnivamp specifically only trigger on physical and magic damage?
Alzon2 votesIt does apply to true damage. What’s more, all true damage is treated as single target, so Conqueror + DD is a potent combo.
Critmaster Garen1 votesIt does apply to true damage. What’s more, all true damage is treated as single target, so Conqueror + DD is a potent combo.
it should trigger on ignite too. holy shit, this could mean garen actually has a sustain item.
Alzon1 votesMaybe after a couple defensive items, sure.
Romans VI XXIII1 votesDD is technically a defence item as well in short skirmishes/burst damage
Done251 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XiQiGXs8,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-12-05T15:42:58.148+0000)
it should trigger on ignite too. holy shit, this could mean garen actually has a sustain item.
Don't forget that the passive from 
disables his Resolve passive while the DoT is ticking.
Critmaster Garen1 votesDon't forget that the passive from
on the other hand, it keeps him in combat for grasp and conqueror.
5050BS1 votesOH this changes 
!
I use to build Gunblade on him pre-rework because his ult and Q where single target so healed for the full 15%.
Poop Johnson5 votesThis is actually wrong, his ult only does their current health as true damage and it constantly scales up from that if they don't die so he's not gonna get full health unless it's from some really janky situation.
King Lego4 votesAs an Urgot main, this is just disgustingly broken...
What was riot thinking for changing Death's Dance though?!? [zombie-brand-mindblown] [zombie-brand-facepalm]
Dx7774 votesThis interaction only works this way with the Training dummies with how Urgots Execute Dmg is Calculated. It goes something like it does the enemy target amount of dmg if it lives after that it does 10 extra dmg, then 100 then 1k until some number above 1 million.
Target Dummies dont die so the dmg number and the healing get to a really high number, while real champions get executed and you only heal 15% of the current hp the enemy champion had at time of execution.
KFCeytron1 votesThis interaction only works this way with the Training dummies with how Urgots Execute Dmg is Calculated. It goes something like it does the enemy target amount of dmg if it lives after that it does 10 extra dmg, then 100 then 1k until some number above 1 million.
Target Dummies dont die so the dmg number and the healing get to a really high number, while real champions get executed and you only heal 15% of the current hp the enemy champion had at time of execution.
This is the key: target dummies don't die, so the execute mechanic deals vast quantities of true damage in its attempt to kill the target. Executing a champ in an ordinary match would result in healing for 15% of their current health, plus a bit more if they have a shield.
That said, has anyone tried this against a target affected by Tryn's or Kayle's ult? In theory, it should have the same effect.
Rathar Dashing1 votesTrynde ult makes sense, but Kayle doesn't take any damage when under the effect of her ultimate. Same with Taric.
ez mental boom2 votesTest it with a champion
120msthøt2 votesDid you test it on champions too? It can be a bug on practice tool dummies or something
BeatzBoyFTW2 votesI tested it on a Level 3 Ezreal Bot in Practice Tool. It DOES NOT fully/grants excessive heals on Urgot.
As everyone said, do it with a normal champion.
MrGerund2 votesfrom the lol wiki:
To ensure death, the execution first deals 100% current health as true damage, then, if the target is still alive, increases by additional cycles of true damage in powers of ten from 10 up to 10^6, for a maximum damage of 1.111.110. Only the target's current health will count as Urgot's damage in post-game statistics and spell vamp healing. A target with at least 1,111,111 Hybrid resistances icon shield would survive this damage, with its remaining HP depending only on the excess of its shielding.
so better get to stacking hp if you wish to abuse this (on the PBE right? still a dick move sorta though)
Lil Homie busta1 votesPretty sure Pyke would heal that much (15K+) every time he kills someone with his ult too, since it is very similar to Urgot's.
And it also synergy very well with him too... I don't know, I stopped trying to understand Riot a long time ago.
NepgearDesu2 votesPyke's ultimate deals regular damage (as in: from 300 to 1000 based on AD and lethality, or something), even if it is true damage that bypasses shields when executing an opponent. Urgot's has to deal heaps of damage since it's 25% of max target HP, and that can go pretty high.
EthreainAmbusher1 votesNot to mention it comes back up if you kill with it + ~300 gold every time you execute with it
Daddy Ants1 votesIt needs to not heal from execute abilities, that's all.
Papuga1 votesRather than it not healing with executes, they could rather cap the damage dealt at the target's remaining health at the moment of the execute. That should bring the healing back in line.
5050BS1 voteswhat about
Rathar Dashing1 votesTested it out with Urgot in the practice tool against a Brand. Even with his RoA fully stacked, your ult barely heals you for any damage because he needs to be below 25% max health, and it only deals his current health in true damage when executing. I tried the same with Pyke and got the same results, though with even less healing because of Pyke's R being an AoE and thus gaining reduced healing.
The way these types of executes work is that they deal the champion's HP in true damage first, then, if they're still alive, they start to deal more and more true damage until they die. If, for instance, the enemy has a Janna shield on them, the first phase would leave them with only the amount of health the shield had. Then, it would start to deal larger and larger amounts of true damage in order to finish the job. It doesn't start at dealing 9999999 damage, it only increases to that amount if the target doesn't die quickly. Since practice dummies don't die, and can take an infinite amount of damage, you immediately deal the maximum damage an execute can deal, and heal for a small percentage of a very very large number.
Hammermancer1 votes intensifies
KFCeytron1 votesUpdate regarding this matter due to the 9.1 patch:
Death's Dance no longer grants Urgot an excessive amount of healing against Tryndamere's R - Undying Rage or Anivia's Passive - Rebirth
So, it turns out the new DD did indeed heal Urgot to full when ulting an ulting Tryn or an Anivia with passive ready.
