Can we not have Trist not good at mostly everything?

Seenan·Jan 5, 2016·3 votes·315 views

Gets more range from passive (if that's not deleted?) than Cait even has by late game...Gets AS steroid on Q without even a mana cost...Gets 2 forms of burst, one of which can siege a tower fairly hard while damaging people near it, almost just as hard, and one that doubles as a disengage. ...Lastly, gets an disengage if she hits you 4 times consecutively. And hell, she's a Yordle so she's harder to click/hit than normal adcs as a standalone point.

I thought we did in resets with Kata, why does an adc, of all people, have a relative amount? Lucian got nerfed because his dash was manaless and went down on cd (if I remember correctly) upon x event, this doesn't go down in cd, this just flat out resets if you hit them 4x (or 3 times with ult) with charge on them.

For clarification...

Duels well (ofc she duels well, she's an adc) Tiny Siege x1 Burst x2 Engage x1 Disengage x1-4+

11 Comments

Earl EulrichJan 5, 20162 votes

proseason starts next week...maybe that´ll get her addressed after being pick or ban for some weeks.

BestTristMyHausJan 5, 20162 votes

Jinx main? Why don't you bitch about her since she stole the lead in most all of these (obviously excluding "tiny") ever since introduction. Also, in the current snowbally meta, having a better range than Cait "eventually" isn't as big a deal. I'm not saying Tristana is weak by any means, but getting better range at level 16, isn't as great as having better range for the first 15.

SeenanJan 6, 20161 votes

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Jinx main? Why don't you bitch about her since she stole the lead in most all of these (obviously excluding "tiny") ever since introduction. Also, in the current snowbally meta, having a better range than Cait "eventually" isn't as big a deal. I'm not saying Tristana is weak by any means, but getting better range at level 16, isn't as great as having better range for the first 15.

No, I stopped playing Jinx before pre even started. Mastery points are forever.

Jinx' burst (E?) isn't targetted nor is it aoe-capable (comparing the non-ult burst spells)...Only thing Jinx has over every adc is aoe autos, a snare that may not even be triggered, long range skillshot aoe execute that isn't as useful up-close anymore since they nerfed it. Trist stole the sieging as well as AS capabilities 'spotlight', even if Jinx is still good at it. Trist's disengage is far superior to any adcs, barring maybe Kalista.

BestTristMyHausJan 6, 20161 votes

Tristana has the best disengage, by far. I agree on that. But Jinx has "free" as which allows her to melt towers much earlier than Trist. And her rockets give her better AoE (Tristana's AoE is only on kill, champ or minion). Also, While I love the disengage Trist has, having two LONG range skillshots should not be discounted. Jinx can hit opponents that Trist can't; and not just because the range is further but because Jinx doesn't need to SEE them like Trist does. Zap is a really good ability and the ult is what it is.

Range: Jinx rockets beat Trist at all levels (which is bs IMO), and zap is solid poke/harass that goes well beyond anything Trist can do AS: Jinx can use minigun to shoot faster than Trist all the time Siege: Jinx's siege (with minigun) is stronger than Tristana's, MAYBE giving exception for very late, but the bomb bonus is not worth the Q cooldown, ESPECIALLY since you practically need to use them in communion with each other. Yes, Trist's Q uses no mana, but it DOES go on CD, whereas Jinx's minigun does not (also, Jinx has ever so slightly more default AD) CC: It's easy to dodge, but Jinx has an actual root as well as a slow neither of which require her to get INTO harms way. Trist has no stuns, silence or roots and her only slow requires her to be on top of the target (thus, in range of at LEAST 1 opponent)
Movement: While Tristana DOES gain a reset on her jump after a kill/assist, it also DOES require mana. Jinx gets a free speed boost on kills, assists AND demolition (Trist doesn't get that) that doesn't require any mana or even "activation".

EDIT: Also, regarding "burst", Jinx's rockets can CRIT, any "burst" you wanna give to Trist can't. (the "burst" from bomb is pretty poor since it's timed/requires 4 hits, and jump is at BEST on par for DAMAGE to Zap, but more dangerous for Trist by far) Also, Trist didn't "steal" ANYTHING from Jinx, since Tristana has been a LoL champ for much, MUCH longer, even IF I wanted to accept your premise of her having spotlight from certain abilities (which I don't necessarily agree with), it'd just be Trist taking BACK what was hers to begin with.

IonianJan 5, 20161 votes

Trist is literally THE easiest ADC to play in the entire game. I think that counts as being good at something?

biobirbbyyJan 5, 20161 votes

Taric

IonianJan 5, 20161 votes

AHHHHHHH

biobirbbyyJan 5, 20161 votes

Taric I remember

OurLestradeJan 5, 20161 votes

I just want her to stop talking 24/7 like most new champions.

weeaboomerJan 5, 20161 votes

quite the lane bully for a hyper carry.

SeenanJan 6, 20161 votes

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quite the lane bully for a hyper carry.

That's what I'm saying..Gradually scaling range and a TARGETTED, potential burst is annoying to deal with. If you have any kind of cc, that burst is gonna be detonated 80%+ of the time...And if it's on the tower, you have to move away a fairly far distance to avoid the explosion unless you poke/cc her off it.