What's the point of AP carries, now that everything is either an AD carry or juggernaut?

Yenn··4 votes·728 views

It's kind of frustrating to even attempt to play an AP carry when there are three juggernauts in your face, blocking you from the AD carries at all times.

Can we at least get some item to help AP carries deal with their large health pools? Liandry isn't viable on most champions, and comps with an AP carry are at a pretty big disadvantage to double ADC comps.

8 Comments

Yumifries1 votes

They are still good for nuking certain primary targets down Lissandra or Viktor for instance can really destroy a squishy. And to keep teams for being all AD, forcing your opponents to not just build armor. There is a need for new AP items though. Maybe something similar to DFG for burst mages to enjoy!

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

There are no squishies anymore thanks to item 3053 and item 3156. Even a Vayne can easily get to tanky for a mage to deal with with near to zero cost in lowered damage.

chezwickcheese1 votes

Mainly for crowd control I guess.

BRBGTGBOWFLEX1 votes

play lux

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

a) because otherways enemies would go full armor -> bad b) for cc and waveclear

For damage purposes mages are not useless only because they deal magic damage. This is why mages with highest winratios now are the super-safe ones - it doesn't matter that you can't do a thing, what matters is enemy tanks can't build 4 armor items.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

midgame its hard to hurt them but they actually fall off in the lategame if they build a bunch of defense like that. As the AP carry you give them a reason to build it

Ellphi1 votes

Dunno what you're talking about, Mages are crazy strong

Assassinating the ADC isn't a mages job, neither is shredding Tanks even though mages have the potential to do both just fine.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

adc and assassins abusing bruiser items is a problem.

however making mages able to blow up tanks and bruisers is not the solution. the solution is to make these items onbly accessible to bruisers instead of everyone.

as far as the effectiveness of mages goes. even if you cant kill your opponents, youre still not useless. if worst comes to worst you can still act as a second support and help your team kite and peel. and while you cant 1v1 anyone, your damage still contributes to winning fights.

mages arent just useful for their damage, but also for their utility and zone control.

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