Why is Yasuo, Zed and Lee sin the most banned in KR?

Popstar Ahri·Aug 2, 2015·2 votes·771 views

They are underpowered, and one of the most difficult champs to handle in the game, I just literally don't understand as to why they ban them...

I dont understand

13 Comments

MatezoideAug 2, 20157 votes

Because they arent underpowered.

BlacksSmokeCrackAug 2, 20152 votes

Because in Korea people are good and know how to play those champions.

Meanwhile in NA and EU...

Popstar AhriAug 2, 20151 votes

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Because in Korea people are good and know how to play those champions.

Meanwhile in NA and EU...

I seen piglet played Yasuo in NA and he has played horribly with him a lot, and hes the guy who moved to NA from KR and the former SKT member aka best KR team

SachabotAug 2, 20151 votes

He's also an ADC. Go find some Faker play on Yas or Zed.

CreationFlawAug 2, 20152 votes

Yasuo isn't even that hard...

Popstar AhriAug 2, 20151 votes

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Yasuo isn't even that hard...

its funny cuz his winrate below average, while I see a shit ton of yasuo mains feed like crazy every game I have been at my ELO and at higher ELO's I have seen

Malix FarwinAug 2, 20151 votes

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its funny cuz his winrate below average, while I see a shit ton of yasuo mains feed like crazy every game I have been at my ELO and at higher ELO's I have seen

The problem with yasuo is that no matter how hard he feeds or get beind, he will always be relevant in a game because of his kit. My last game in fact, i made yasuo go 0/12 lane but because he is yasuo as soon as he got 1-2 kill he started steamrolling. Not to mention how stupidly easy it is to farm and wave clear with him.

TehNACHOAug 2, 20152 votes

They're not underpowered, it's just that the skill floor to use those champs have been raised time and time again.

ALL of Lee Sin's weaknesses for example came back with a vengeance during the tank meta. Zed's lost a lot of safety and dueling utility. Yasuo's Wind Wall makes or breaks his dueling potential due to how squishy he is.

They're all still good at what they do. Lee Sin still has a fantastic early game and relatively versatile application for his ultimate mid to late game. Zed will still nuke a squishy down and get out if he plans around it. With a high enough reaction time, agility and a well placed Wind Wall, Yasuo's squishiness is negated. They all require so much out of their player that apparently Koreans are afraid of facing should they run into someone with the skills to use these champs to their highest effectiveness.

And you have to remember, the Koreans play with like 7-9 ping daily. Yasuo, Zed, and Lee Sin all thrive in that sort of environment.

DreadlocksAug 2, 20151 votes

Could be targeted? Some players are just that damn good with a champion despite being "weak/er" than others.

Mecha MaIphiteAug 2, 20151 votes

Maybe it's because we just aren't good enough to play them properly.

Nameless VoiceAug 2, 20151 votes

I must admit that I would ban these three more often if they were played more often.

It's not even about their power level, it's that they are all extremely frustrating to play against, and all have some amount of "nope" potential to negate an enemy's strength which is not fun to deal with. Playing against Yasuo? Hope you don't want to use projectiles. Playing against Zed? Hope you don't need mana to clear waves. Playing against Lee Sin? Hope you're weren't planning to try to punish him as a melee champion.

NoMonkuAug 2, 20151 votes

They are definitely weaker then they were before they were nerfed, but they all still have the ability to do what they could before. They are still extremely dangerous and can still execute people when played correctly. The main reason you don't see them much anymore is because the nerfs to these champions cause their skill cap to go way up to be able to play them easily. The people at the top can still easily play them because they were the main cause for the nerfs in the first place, so the champion got weaker so they couldn't as easily dump on their opponents and have to expend more(resources or skills or safety) to be able to execute the same way.