literally his spells:
passive : punch + hp reg q: punch w: punch e: punch r: bowsers side B from smash.
im even fine with the dude having true damage on his w. the champ looks so simple so normal so... boring. I LOVE IT! i really do.
the only thing that does bother me is something vandiril alrdy showed. using your r on a cho guts with 10k or more hp lol.
toby mcteague1 votesYeah, but he is really bland and adds nothing new to the game. Hes ginna be like ivern aurelion sol. No one is ginna play him after a few months
2nd he has 2 displacements, 1 stun, 1 smassive slow.
Hes pretty over loaded.
Settsation1 votesWh-. You. You just contradicted yourself. Also, by that logic, Maokai is overloaded cause he has a knockup, 3 slows and a root that makes him invincible. Do you really think Maokai is overloaded?
toby mcteague1 votesIn terms of how much “stuff” he has in his kit regardless of how small, hes really overloaded.
In terms of how mich he can do with his kit, we dint know yet.
Simple to play =/= overloaded Simple to play =/= not over loaded
Hes simple to olay but pretty over loaded.
100% dmg reduction True dmg 2 displacements 1 heavy slow 1 stun Movement speed Pseudo attackspeed on passive %max hp dmg %taget bonus hp dmg Shield HP regen
Lee Sin: Shield Execute 2 gapclosers + .5 for ward hop True sight Slow Attack speed slow 1 Displacement, 1 Knockup Spell Vamp %target bonus hp dmg Attack speed buff
Sett has just as an overloaded as Lee Sin. Only difference is that Lee Sin has an insane skillCAP.
Zed:
1 dash 2 blinks %max hp dmg 1 heavy slow Untargetability Sight from shadows Mimicked abilities(?) not sure if it counts
Zed is NOT overloaded. But I bet you his skill cap is mich higher than Sett’s (things you can do with the kit, combos, etc.) zed’s kit is far from overloaded.
Settsation1 votesExcept that you're leaving a lot of details out about how exactly Sett has to work with those sort of 'perks'. His stun has to be achieved by getting an enemy on both sides of the AOE which, outside of laning phase, is not as easy as it looks. I can attest, as I have already played quite a bit of him on the PBE.
9/10 times when you use your Ult, you're going into the enemy team and will be focused, making it a huge risk factor. Hell, it's not even a great engage due to the incredibly short range. It makes him incredibly easy to kite, he's terrible at engaging in teamfights because of this.
Yes, you have a huge shield and true damage from your W, but you have to take damage to get both of those to reasonable amounts and the shield depletes incredibly fast, making extended trades extremely disadvantageous.
Again, for his HP regen to even be noticeable you have to be low on HP, making him especially susceptible to executes which happen to be pretty common these days.
Sett is only really good at fighting other melee champions, primarily tanks. He's extremely easy to kite out in many scenarios, even by bruisers like Irelia or Kled. The only thing he excels at right now that we can say for certain is that he's great against (most) juggernauts and tanks.
toby mcteague1 votesAgain. Its not about how HARD the champion is to play. We are not talking about that. Its about HOW MUCH.
Over = excessively Loaded = packed Kit = Kit
Excessively packed kit. He has an overloaded kit, based on how much stuff is in his kit.
Your logic can apply to lee sin.
1.His execute only applies if he hits q. 2.He only has gapcloser on his q if it hits. 3.He only has a gapcloser if he has wards or mnions. 4. His knockup inly applies if it hits a secondary target. 5.His %target bonus hp dmg only applies if it hits a secindary target.
Its not about how hard it is to hit/execute your abilities. Its about how much shit is in your kit.
When people talk about how overloaded Senna is, everyone agrees because she has a lot of (random?) shit thrown in her kit. But shes not that mechanically hard to play.
Senna:
Free crit Free range Free AD Free Attack speed
Aoe root Aoe invisibility / obscurity Mapwide range shield Mapwide range heal Heal Self Movement speed boost Aoe movement speed boost
Senna is overloaded, but not really that hard to play.
ZephyrDrake1 votesPretty sure that 
beat him to the punch and a bunch of other champions before her... hell even 
isn't an overloaded champion. All her spells are pretty straightforward.
