When are we ever gonna fix creepblock and autopathing?

The Deckowner·Jan 26, 2017·56 votes·1,989 views

Literally encountered ridiculous creepblock twice in a day. first time I had my character stuck between a dead turret and a enemy lantern for 3 seconds, clicking anything beyong the dead turret only results in my character moving back and forth and I had to walk 180% backward to get out of the weird creepblockzone which cased me to miss a entire teamfight. The next game I warded baron and started walking back to base, and somehow got stuck between my recalling teammate and a wall... Again clicking any point forward just makes my champ go back and forth and I had to dash out of there... This shit need to be fixed...

31 Comments

A Vel Koz MainJan 26, 201716 votes

No it doesn't, it doesn't effect LCS. - Riot 2017

The DeckownerJan 26, 201719 votes

I remember in a game last year CLG Darshan was playing Shen and he shadowdashed into his own minions and got stuck between them which caused him to be killed.

Snowman ArcJan 26, 201716 votes

And they said that this was correct to happen and healthy for the game, like WTF.

Pale PirateJan 26, 20176 votes

Did they actually say that? Need link.

Snowman ArcJan 27, 20171 votes

I can't provide you with a link, but if you find the game and the moment it happened, you will hear casters say "this is how the game is supposed to be, it's an intended mechanic and not a bug". Basically, Darshan asked for a pause because he thought it was a bug and it was granted, but game went through normally.

MelledoneusJan 26, 20175 votes

If it was a champion they actually cared about getting stuck in minions, they would have done something.

"Oh, it's just Shen. Yup, go through with the nerfs."

Absolutely ridiculous.

xelakerJan 27, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Vel Koz Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XTRm5g8E,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-01-26T05:24:58.226+0000)

No it doesn't, it doesn't effect LCS. - Riot 2017

beat me to it lol 1+

Snowman ArcJan 26, 201714 votes

It's seriously stupid. It's not even a mechanic, nor something that you can control based on skill. Getting stuck between minions is complete RNG. Minions move in a very weird way that you can't know or predict, and you can't really change it to make it benefit you, as long as pathing / blocking goes. You can get severely RNGed, becoming unable to move and die, or not being able to chase after someone, and it just doesn't involve any skill to benefit or fuck up to be harmed by it. All it takes is just RNG.

Seriously, I don't understand why Rito thinks it's healthy.

Papa AndreiJan 26, 20172 votes

Once Riot stops favoritism with ranged champions as they don't have to deal with creep block.

SihariJan 26, 20173 votes

Ranged champs also have to deal with this... It happenend so often to me, that I tryed to reposition myself only to get completly stuck between a bunch of minions or a wall+minions, which resulted in me not beeing able to use my full potential or die because I cant dodge...

Papa AndreiJan 26, 20171 votes

But you know, during the first 20 minutes of the game during laning you don't have to fight the enemy laner, your minions, their minions, just to get a single cs without blowing all your mana.

HeeroTXJan 26, 20172 votes

Yeah... gotta love that marksmen favoritism... Yasuo Give PD back its old passive and then we'll talk.

5000000000000000Jan 26, 20171 votes

Can't he just dash once he gets stuck?

HeeroTXJan 27, 20171 votes

That's the POINT, Yasuo doesn't care about creep block. And last I checked, Yasuo is melee.

SammystormJan 26, 20172 votes

I got stuck behind big golem after dashing over the wall once.

5000000000000000Jan 26, 20171 votes

We all have, and we cry for you

PROJECT KatarìnaJan 26, 20172 votes

I was hoping they would change creep blocking to only happen by enemy or neutral minions not allied it would make more sense gameplay wise

VenomarJan 27, 20172 votes

That would actually be healthy and create interaction and an interesting dynamic in lane aside from aggro.

So no won't happen.

Pale PirateJan 26, 20171 votes

They introduced the whole creep-block thing when Heroes of the Storm came out, because it felt really cool in Heroes of the Storm. But their game isn't Heroes of the Storm, and while creepblock could be cool here too if it was handled good, it was not. The game's systems aren't built to with it (looking at autopathing). Luckily, it has improved since it was first iterated, but It's still bad.

5000000000000000Jan 26, 20173 votes

Are you sure? Pretty sure creep block existed in beta.

Pale PirateJan 26, 20172 votes

I don't mean there was no creep-block before, I mean that it became a very noticeable thing around at that time. Don't you remember a point when minions suddenly started feeling ridiculous (around after HotS release), and everyone on the boards was like "stop it", and then it was removed in a patch with Meddler saying that the main problem is the systems built around it, and that it will be back? I guess some didn't notice, but it was brought back unannounced, with a few fixes soon after to stop it from being ridiculous. It's still different from the beta creepblock, I'm pretty sure about that.

LiofaJan 26, 20171 votes

when you buy another 50 hext tech whale boxes

SpookyNeedleJan 26, 20171 votes

Yesterday I was running away from an enemy kha'zix, and my minions running towards his tower pushed me under it and I died.

Glory ln DeathJan 26, 20174 votes

Serves you right! Just think of all the times you've sacrificed minions to towers! You had it coming, tbh.

FegoneJan 26, 20171 votes

Just play Fizz. Problem solved.

Cosmic WarperJan 26, 20171 votes

I get it at least once a day... it's ridiculous. I was played ARAM and the minion wave was coming in and it took me 3 seconds just to get through the wave to get to the other side of the wave near the brush...

Unlucky47Jan 26, 20171 votes

I raged out of game yesterday because I flashed to follow up for a kill and had to get one more auto off and I was completely wedged between 5 minions. The gp I tried to kill just ulted me when I was at half health and I had to accept my fate. It's fucking dumb.

Sraeg2013Jan 26, 20171 votes

At this point you can even get creep blocked by your own fucking Nexus while walking out of the fountain. And then on nexus tower. Aand then on the inhibitor. Aaaand on the inhibitor tower. Aaaaand on the inner tower. Aaaaaand on the outer tower.

http://i.imgur.com/acfyeE8.gif?b

Quantum LotusJan 26, 20171 votes

It's definitely in a bad spot when you see minions themselves get stuck in their own pathing... every few days I see a super minion get stuck at turret or inhibitor going back and forth.

VenomarJan 27, 20171 votes

Sometimes I dash into creeps and they are clumped wierd(accidental or otherwise).

Sometimes I literally can't move when I do this.

Sometimes this kills the man.

Sometimes I click right.

Sometimes my character tries to go right.

Sometimes they decide halfway that back around and to the left would make for a more scenic view.

Sometimes this too kills the man.