ezreal's intended role is as an adc

thinking man·Jul 4, 2015·1 votes·656 views

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AyRe CoNteMpTJul 4, 20152 votes

"this thing is designed to be exactly this role and have absolutely no flexibility so even retarded people can understand it" - rito

or if im allowed to quote myself from another thread: poor game cant get anything that is not forced into a specific role without the community crying "omg i need predetermination so i dont have to admit im uncreative"

thinking manJul 4, 20151 votes

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"this thing is designed to be exactly this role and have absolutely no flexibility so even retarded people can understand it" - rito

or if im allowed to quote myself from another thread: poor game cant get anything that is not forced into a specific role without the community crying "omg i need predetermination so i dont have to admit im uncreative"

You misunderstand the intent of this thread; it is to say that the primary balancing point of Ezreal is as an ADC rather than as a mage. His mage off-build is just an off-build. They do not prioritize that nearly as heavily when balancing him.

AyRe CoNteMpTJul 4, 20152 votes

ritos balancing is bullshit anyways in about 90% of cases and their priorities are a joke. still, i dont think balancing champions towards "a specific build" makes sense. if THIS BUILD is too strong on him, or as runeglaive is just a ridiculous item on most champs, how about you fix the items. ezreal is fine and his scaling is fine too. like, wtf are people even complaining about.

hes balanced, just runeglaive isnt. i heared its gonna be fixed in the next patch so ap ezreal will be fine too. what exactly am i misunderstanding here? i said i dont think its right to force things into roles, you say he should be balanced about a specific role.

pretty well understood, i guess.

thinking manJul 4, 20151 votes

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ritos balancing is bullshit anyways in about 90% of cases and their priorities are a joke. still, i dont think balancing champions towards "a specific build" makes sense. if THIS BUILD is too strong on him, or as runeglaive is just a ridiculous item on most champs, how about you fix the items. ezreal is fine and his scaling is fine too. like, wtf are people even complaining about.

hes balanced, just runeglaive isnt. i heared its gonna be fixed in the next patch so ap ezreal will be fine too. what exactly am i misunderstanding here? i said i dont think its right to force things into roles, you say he should be balanced about a specific role.

pretty well understood, i guess.

You balance things around specific roles so that you avoid collateral damage to one when trying to balance the other by just cutting one of the off-roles out in the first place.

AyRe CoNteMpTJul 4, 20151 votes

or you just simply balance them so that they are good in everything they can do but none of those things is overpowered so players have options and can be creative and it is balanced. basically just like ezreal is right now except runeglaive.

SatedCancerJul 4, 20151 votes

says who??? you know he was released as a support/mage his W used to heal on a 1.0 ap ratio so imagine ap ezreal today, healing his entire team for 800 health while chunking the enemy team for 800 health. his Q had a much higher base and longer range, his E had a much lower cooldown even though its at 6.6 sec at max rank right now lol.

thinking manJul 4, 20151 votes

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says who??? you know he was released as a support/mage his W used to heal on a 1.0 ap ratio so imagine ap ezreal today, healing his entire team for 800 health while chunking the enemy team for 800 health. his Q had a much higher base and longer range, his E had a much lower cooldown even though its at 6.6 sec at max rank right now lol.

let me go find the riot quote from like 2 years ago, somebody proposed a change to make him more mage-like and then a rioter came in and said that they intend for him to be an adc

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3196629&page=1

1 and 12, 1 heavily implies it as Morello explains gameplay vs. build and then 12 has Morello explicitly say why they don't support AP Ezreal, further cementing the fact that he is currently intended as an ADC.

SatedCancerJul 4, 20151 votes

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let me go find the riot quote from like 2 years ago, somebody proposed a change to make him more mage-like and then a rioter came in and said that they intend for him to be an adc

if he is an adc then why does every ability have mostly ap scaling.

thinking manJul 4, 20151 votes

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if he is an adc then why does every ability have mostly ap scaling.

why does kog have ap scaling abilities as an adc? why does jax have ap scaling abilities as an ad bruiser? why does katarina have ad scalings as an ap? why does tryndamere have ap scalings as an ad? why does miss fortune have ap scalings as an ad?

SatedCancerJul 4, 20152 votes

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why does kog have ap scaling abilities as an adc? why does jax have ap scaling abilities as an ad bruiser? why does katarina have ad scalings as an ap? why does tryndamere have ap scalings as an ad? why does miss fortune have ap scalings as an ad?

yea but ezreal has 2 abilitys that only scale on ap and have 0 ad scaling and his R scaling is low compared to his ap scaling.

thinking manJul 5, 20151 votes

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yea but ezreal has 2 abilitys that only scale on ap and have 0 ad scaling and his R scaling is low compared to his ap scaling.

Jax's W and R scale exclusively with AP for damage.

Tryndamere's Q scales exclusively with AP

Kog's Q/W/E scale exclusively with AP

Miss Fortune's E/R scale exclusively with AP

NemeBroJul 4, 20152 votes

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if he is an adc then why does every ability have mostly ap scaling.

Because his AD scalings are higher than his AP scalings, and making him an ADC gives him more turret pushing power and AA power.

There's nothing wrong with mage Ez, just as there is nothing wrong with ADC Ez. His kit is flexible enough to allow both, and that's a good thing.

DrCyanideJul 4, 20151 votes

Funny, his secondary role is Mage, and he has more AP scaling abilities than AD scaling abilities.

As someone who's bern playing AP Ezreal for almost a year, I actually have a harder time seeing why people play him ADC.

1000angrybeesJul 4, 20151 votes

honestly I think he's boring as shit as an adc. Then again, I also dont like being ADC. To each their own.

Dr PoroJul 4, 20151 votes

He's supposed to be a flexible champion that can build AD or AP or even hybrid. Riot wants to keep the ADC entity, but also the mage entity of Ezreal. (Hence his roles are marksman and mage). Same with Kog'Maw (AP kog'maw is more succesful atm than ADC).

lennzyJul 4, 20151 votes

any champion can be viable anywhere you want as long as you commit to it. even now ez is really high damage in mid making plays

Sire HippingtonJul 5, 20151 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dGYt0Ibw94 He was intended to be an ADC/Mage hybrid that can be played in multiple different ways Mage-Ez actually was dominant for a long time after release, and they always tried to keep ap and ad ez prettymuch equally viable(hence the ad-ratio taht was added to his ult at some point when ad-ez was weak, the adition of an ap-ratio to Q, The increased ap-ratio on W after the base was nerfed to hit ad-ez, the increase of the Q ap ratio when lichbane was nerfed...

Ez always was meant to be viable in more than one role.