VERY Reasonable changes to Seeker's Armguard and Hexdrinker.

Sad Tyrant··2 votes·408 views

item 3191 1700 20 Ability power + 20 armour item 1052 + item 1029 Unique active: stasis Put yourself in Stasis icon stasis for 2.5 seconds, rendering yourself untargetable and invulnerable for the duration, but also unable to move, attack, cast spells, or use items during this time. 150 second cooldown.

item 3155 1300 15 attack damage + 25 magic resist item 1036 + item 1033 LIFELINE: Upon taking magic damage that would reduce maximum health below 30%, grants a shield that absorbs 110 - 280 (based on level) magic damage for 5 seconds. (150 second cooldown)

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ChaddyFantome4 votes

you seriously trying to insinuate Statis is equivalent to Lifeline? Let alone that having it available on a 1700 g item is balanced or reasonable?

Zhonyas is already effective on may champs even if they dont build ap as a late game play pick item for the active alone.

Everyone and their mother will be getting Seekers with this. INCLUDING AD assassins.

Sad Tyrant2 votes

On the first point, I am not comparing or insinuating equivalency. I am insinuating that hexdrinker by itself is a still a bit strong for the amount of gold that it costs and making it less effective would help magic based champions.

I do see where you are coming from a little, it could present a balance issue. On the other hand, using stasis is a hit and miss, use it badly and you die, and the item itself has terrible stats, sort of like item 3140 (note: only a partial comparison). I suppose the suggested CD on the active is a quite low, increasing to 180 seconds or 210 seconds and increase the cost to 1800. I just want to remove the horrible clunky build path of Zhonya's allowing mages to have a bit of early defence against assassins

ChaddyFantome2 votes

On the other hand, using stasis is a hit and miss, use it badly and you die,

People need to stop clinging to this weak defense.

No. The case where you are using it "badly" usually amounts to using it to delay your inevitable death. the only thing that changes in that scenario is you don't waste everyone else's time.

EVEN THEN, you do NOT balance an active based on the worst case scenario. That is stupid.

Sad Tyrant2 votes

Ok, Hypothetical

You are using an immobile mage, you are against a Zed, he ults you under tower because at 10 min he is 40 CS over you and has both a item 3134 and a item 3133. what do you do?

ChaddyFantome2 votes

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Ok, Hypothetical

You are using an immobile mage, you are against a Zed, he ults you under tower because at 10 min he is 40 CS over you and has both a item 3134 and a item 3133. what do you do?

Use thissummoner 3 if you are too stuborn for some damn reason, depends which mage you are.

Lux Snare him right as he appears behind you and dodge his shurikens. Ziggs Bombs him and yourself and use satchel charges to space and slow him under turret. Malzahar Press R Viktor W yourself and drop everything on him. Azir Wall him farther into your turret as soon as he appears behind you. Lissandra W as soon as he appears behind him then R, or just R yourself Swain W right behind yourself to snare him and watch him melt. Ahri Charm him as soon as he appears after his Ult. Annie R Stun him and kill him under turret. Zyra E him and ult Cassiopeia Ult him as soon as he reappears behind you after his Ult.

-And my personal favorite. Orianna press R as soon as he reappears to knock him in while he is attacking you under turret.

  • What NOT to do. go "OMG OMG HE IS JUMPING ME" while panicking like a retard.
Sad Tyrant1 votes

What about? Karthus Anivia Heimerdinger Brand Veigar

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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What about? Karthus Anivia Heimerdinger Brand Veigar

Anivia has Passive Brand, just E>Q him Veig just needs to place his H down to that Zed lands right on the right. its very easy actually. Heim E or even Ult>E him Karthus , you got me. I usually beat Zed's in lane with Karth. Worse case scenario, Zhonyas or just kill him after u die.

HEAljvLykd1 votes

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