Unpopular opinion about Lissandra

Juice··1 votes·1,362 views

Lissandra is a toxic, binary braindead champion that if you are a melee forces you into her playstyle of just pushing into your tower with absolutely zero chance to do something about it.

Her cooldowns are ridiculously low (especially on her Q and W) and there is absolutely 0 counterplay to her get out of jail free card (E) which she can use to escape any situation she puts herself into.

This champion is one of the most thoughtless champions in the game where you can just set your mind on "OFF" mode and spam Q to shove the lane against the poor and helpless melee while he watches and then set up ganks with your R perfectly or escape them with your E.

Everytime she's popular top lane is either a stalemate or goes in her favor because melees just don't have 4 gap closers necessary to deal with this ultra safe 0 risk champion.

She's an abhorrent design champion and needs to be reworked asap, change my mind please and tell me how Lissandra isn't an awful design desperately in a need of rework?

Make valid arguments if you can, I'm curious.

22 Comments

ƒrostγ5 votes

The CD on her W is 14 seconds at rank one. 14 seconds. How on earth is that low? Her mana costs are still high, so its not like she can push all the time. Her E is telegraphed, it can be easily played around it or you can just CC Lissandra to stop the blink.

Juice1 votes

Lol, you have it all figured out huh?

Most played champ : Lissandra

Last 20 games : ARAM

Okay bro! :)

ƒrostγ4 votes

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Lol, you have it all figured out huh?

Most played champ : Lissandra

Last 20 games : ARAM

Okay bro! :)

So I guess you admit i'm right and you're just salty cuz you lost to a Lissandra?

Juice1 votes

How about we set up a 1v1 I will pick Lissandra and you can pick any melee vs me and see if your tactic will work out for ya?

I have not played Lissandra in 2-3 years and you have 100 games on her this season you should be at an advantage?

I'm available in about an hour

ƒrostγ2 votes

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How about we set up a 1v1 I will pick Lissandra and you can pick any melee vs me and see if your tactic will work out for ya?

I have not played Lissandra in 2-3 years and you have 100 games on her this season you should be at an advantage?

I'm available in about an hour

I hope in an hour i'll be asleep tho. A lot of melee champs counter her, rather easily. She can't 1v1 most top laners, especially if they rush mercury's or basically any MR item. Like I said, her cooldowns in early game are pretty high, she can be punished when her W and E are down ( 14 and 24 sec cd ).

Sure, she has advantage against melee champs, but that was intended on riot's part.

Juice1 votes

Ok can you add me and we'll do this little 1v1 tomorrow? :)

It's easy to write theories, but let's see how those theories and assumptions work in a game

ƒrostγ2 votes

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Ok can you add me and we'll do this little 1v1 tomorrow? :)

It's easy to write theories, but let's see how those theories and assumptions work in a game

um what was assumption about these? You think I assumed her cooldowns or what?

Juice1 votes

Why are you avoiding my request? You shouldn't be afraid.

I have not played Lissandra in 2-3 years and you main her ...

You should stomp me with that secret counter of yours?

ƒrostγ2 votes

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Why are you avoiding my request? You shouldn't be afraid.

I have not played Lissandra in 2-3 years and you main her ...

You should stomp me with that secret counter of yours?

I'm not avoiding it, i'm just not interested, + there is the fact that i'm not experienced at playing melee top laners . You seem to be a top/jungle main, so if you haven't learned to play against ranged champs with CC, that's not my problem, but yours alone.

Juice1 votes

Ahh okay, that would be all mr Aram player, if you have any more theories please keep me updated, I sure would love to hear them from you :)

ƒrostγ2 votes

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Ahh okay, that would be all mr Aram player, if you have any more theories please keep me updated, I sure would love to hear them from you :)

Well everyone seems to agree with me, so :)

Juice1 votes

Majority of people who frequent these forums are bad, so :)

ƒrostγ1 votes

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Majority of people who frequent these forums are bad, so :)

Or maybe you're just salty and biased ;)

Baby Ghoul5 votes

Wow an "unpopular opinion" thread that's actually an unpopular opinion.

[sg-lulu]

JeaneGreene4 votes

She is gated by horrible mana costs because her “passive” is supposed to remedy this. If she pushes, then it is your fault for not punishing her abuse of mana.

Juice1 votes

Lol, I bet that would work if I picked Liss and gave you an opportunity to "punish my abuse of mana" !

Are you gonna start playing ranked before the end of season or?

Slythrin Umbreon1 votes

I played my first game against Viktor top recently, as someone who never plays top lane. Body bagged him as Malphite with the wrong runepage, due to some glitch in client. On a side note, predator Malphite is pretty good, not gonna lie.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

viktor top is bad vs champs that can gap close on him

i win lane vs viktor top as maokai

he typically dont have early game damage to bully or kill a tank early in lane /game any ways.

PhearBunny4 votes

i disagree entirely. I think Lissandra is one of the only healthy and truly balanced champions in the game.

TheSingularity4 votes

Tbh I'd place vel'koz in that slot

PhearBunny3 votes

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Tbh I'd place vel'koz in that slot

"one of the only" VK too.

kneel on Ice2 votes

ahaha , please ... wait till her new passive comes out and you'll see real power ;)

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