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Riot, if you nerf Vayne I am quitting the game

Juice··8 votes·4,916 views

Yes, I own the prestige Vayne skin, which means you will lose a paying customer

Here's my reasoning :

  • Vayne is hard to play, players who have dedicated enough time to gain a positive win rate with Vayne should be rewarded
  • Vayne has 1% less win rate on top than she has as an ADC in bot lane, what does that tell us? That tells us that ADCs are underpowered compared to top laners (just think about it)
  • There is always gonna be an OP champ in any role, why shouldn't it be Vayne ?
  • Vayne is the most fun champion to watch competitively and on streams because of her consistent ability to 1v5 (Riven comes close second)
  • Vayne depends on the support, that's why I always have to duo with my 1 million mastery points Thresh partner
  • Vayne is squishy, so even tho old tactic of pink warding her doesn't work - the other time tested method of countering any overpowered champion still works - you should just CC her
  • She is popular and sells skins
  • Many people own the prestigious Vayne skin
  • It's difficult to condemn people into the wall sometimes
  • She can be outplayed if she dives 1v2
  • She only has 5 escapes (Tumble, Condemn, Heal, Flash, Botrk)
  • Her invisibility doesn't last as long as Twitch's invisibility
  • Her W doesn't deal the same amount of damage as other executes such as Garen's R
  • It's easy to missclick with Vayne when you have high APM most advanced Vayne players have
  • Vayne has the potential to 1v5 at any given moment, but it doesn't always work out
  • She has a short range (just look at Tristana and Caitlyn aa range and then tell me again Vayne is OP?)

Thank you for reading.

47 Comments

Iron Four Veigar22 votes

Vayne is hard to play, players who have dedicated enough time to gain a positive win rate with Vayne should be rewarded

Stats say otherwise

Vayne has 1% less win rate on top than she has as an ADC in bot lane, what does that tell us? That tells us that ADCs are underpowered compared to top laners (just think about it)

? A champ that isn't intended to be in that role has lower wr than in it's main role? What a surprise

There is always gonna be an OP champ in any role, why shouldn't it be Vayne ?

Why should it be?

Vayne is the most fun champion to watch competitively and on streams because of her consistent ability to 1v5 (Riven comes close second)

I disagree wholeheartedly.

Vayne depends on the support, that's why I always have to duo with my 1 million mastery points Thresh partner

No shit that ADC's rely on their supports early, they have to balanced around that

Vayne is squishy, so even tho old tactic of pink warding her doesn't work - the other time tested method of countering any overpowered champion still works - you should just CC her

JUST CC THEM :^)

She is popular and sells skins Many people own the prestigious Vayne skin

Irrelevant

It's difficult to condemn people into the wall sometimes

So?

She can be outplayed if she dives 1v2

I think it should be the other way around, she should be the one trying to outplay rather than the duo

She only has 5 escapes (Tumble, Condemn, Heal, Flash, Botrk)

Bork and Heal aren't really escapes but for the love of God this is more of an argument against your point.

Her invisibility doesn't last as long as Twitch's invisibility

But it's up every 1.2 seconds and gives you a damage boost for the next auto

Her W doesn't deal the same amount of damage as other executes such as Garen's R

It's much easier to proc, does % max hp damage and can shred tanks with Guinsoo's

It's easy to missclick with Vayne when you have high APM most advanced Vayne players have

?

Vayne has the potential to 1v5 at any given moment, but it doesn't always work out

No champ should be able to 1v5 at any given moment, only if they're significantly ahead and in a hands of a very good player.

She has a short range (just look at Tristana and Caitlyn aa range and then tell me again Vayne is OP?)

She makes up for it with mobility and DPS.

Anyway, I assume your post was meant to be sarcastic but it didn't work out bud.

Juice1 votes

Once you get to high elo (plat 4+) you will realize what I'm talking about

Iron Four Veigar10 votes

? This account is P1 with 80% wr? I never said that Vayne needs nerfs, it's just that your arguments make no sense.

(Btw, plat players are disgustingly bad.)

TigersAreYellow1 votes

Wow you took the time to do this for a satire post. That's.. commendable?

DrCyanide12 votes

Your logic contradicts itself.

Vayne depends on the support, that's why I always have to duo with my 1 million mastery points Thresh partner Vayne has 1% less win rate on top than she has as an ADC in bot lane, what does that tell us?

These tell us that Vayne is only 1% less effective without a support, and can hold her own.

Vayne ... consistent ability to 1v5 (Riven comes close second) Vayne has the potential to 1v5 at any given moment, but it doesn't always work out She can be outplayed if she dives 1v2 Vayne depends on the support

Pick one. She can either consistently 1v5, sometimes 1v5, can occasionally 1v2, or can only 2v2. You're trying to claim all 4.

Juice1 votes

She can consistently sometimes 1v5 and 1v2 under the enemy tower by diving and only 2v5. I'm trying to claim only one

Trust me, I main Vayne since season 2

DrCyanide23 votes

consistently sometimes

You may be a Vayne main, but your reasoning/logic just took it's third silver bolt.

Ragnaveil2 votes

Damn, spicy.

Craft Zeppelin6 votes

{quoted}

You may be a Vayne main, but your reasoning/logic just took it's third silver bolt.

I lost it when I saw "Vayne owns a prestige skin so she should not be nerfed" One thing for sure, we would lose this quality clown of a gem if Vayne gets nerfed.

këÿ1 votes

He isn't even a Vayne main...

Super Galaxy10 votes

Vayne's no longer a hard champion to play, thanks to the Tumble buffs during her ultimate.

Besides, Vayne shouldn't be the "OP" marksman in a tank-scarce meta when her purpose is to cut down tanks like Kog'Maw.

Dynikus8 votes

Just revert the 50% CD buff she got for no reason. She was fine without it, and maybe then people would quit bitching about her.

Hella Gay Nerd6 votes

How can anyone actually take this seriously. Like I understand sarcasm can be hard for some people on the internet but the last like 5 were so blatant I can't believe you're this dense.

wolvius2 votes

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How can anyone actually take this seriously. Like I understand sarcasm can be hard for some people on the internet but the last like 5 were so blatant I can't believe you're this dense.

Honestly It's hard to tell anymore cause stuff is so stupid now like riven being op is apparently a western phenomone according to a rioter, when she also has 56% (or us it 54%) winrate.

The only 5 escapes made me think it was a joke but I've seen people stupid enough to actually say shes shortranged because her abilities dont exceed 550 and use it as a defense. As well as that you can still vaynespot her.

It's hard to tell when stupidity ends and humour begins..

BeatzBoyFTW6 votes

Yes, I own the prestige Vayne skin, which means you will lose a paying customer

haha

https://imgur.com/stwkznP.gif[]

GrãñðmãstêrShãçø5 votes

satire?

thefatlazycat4 votes

judging by all the things you just said I'm going to say that it's probably best for the actual community if you did quit, maybe find a single-player game where being overpowered is the norm

Sirsir3 votes

Kthxbai

IAmTheLego3 votes

Buddy, all that I read translate to something like this: "I'm a Vayne main with a prestige skin! Please don't nerf my main!"

None of your points are valid. They just your personal bias.

And having a prestige skin will not make you any special. Riot doesn't even know you exist. And what's so special about prestige anyway? They are just skins with a gold color slapped onto them.

Hayaishi22 votes

I'd argue Vayne shouldn't even be viable due to being a stat check champion.

ThreshHub2 votes

{quoted}

Yes, I own the prestige Vayne skin, which means you will lose a paying customer

So ? One in a million.

Here's my reasoning :

Here we go

  • Vayne is hard to play, players who have dedicated enough time to gain a positive win rate with Vayne should be rewarded

A lot of champs are hard to play. Not all of them are busted. And Vayne isn't even that hard

  • Vayne has 1% less win rate on top than she has as an ADC in bot lane, what does that tell us? That tells us that ADCs are underpowered compared to top laners (just think about it)

She isn't even supposed to be a toplaner though.

  • There is always gonna be an OP champ in any role, why shouldn't it be Vayne ?

There should be none. They must be fixed. It doesn't excuse vayne being too strong

  • Vayne is the most fun champion to watch competitively and on streams because of her consistent ability to 1v5 (Riven comes close second)

This is just a personal opinion. I prefer watching support plays. Should we overbuff supports because of that ?

  • Vayne depends on the support, that's why I always have to duo with my 1 million mastery points Thresh partner

Every adc depends on it's support, at least during early. In fact vayne depends on them way less as the game progresses.

  • Vayne is squishy, so even tho old tactic of pink warding her doesn't work - the other time tested method of countering any overpowered champion still works - you should just CC her

CC also doesn't excuse being broken. Every champ gets countered by CC. Most just also have more counters.

  • She is popular and sells skins

A lot of champs are popular. Also not all of them are overbuffed and too strong.

  • Many people own the prestigious Vayne skin

Good for them. They can still play the champ if it is balanced. It's not like their money is wasted.

  • It's difficult to condemn people into the wall sometimes

Her condemn is propably the most balanced ability in her kit. The others are the issue

  • She can be outplayed if she dives 1v2

If she towerdives 1v2 she should just die. She shouldn't have to get outplayed.

  • She only has 5 escapes (Tumble, Condemn, Heal, Flash, Botrk)

Is this a good point to use in her defence though ?

  • Her invisibility doesn't last as long as Twitch's invisibility

It also doesn't have the same cooldown. Also it gives her a stronger attack. Twitch just gets some attack speed.

  • Her W doesn't deal the same amount of damage as other executes such as Garen's R

It isn't an execute though. It deals max health damage, not missing health damage, mister vayne main since season 2.

  • It's easy to missclick with Vayne when you have high APM most advanced Vayne players have

Affects only a small part of the vayne players population so it shouldn't be used as an excuse

  • Vayne has the potential to 1v5 at any given moment, but it doesn't always work out

She shouldn't. No champ should be able to do that at any moment.

  • She has a short range (just look at Tristana and Caitlyn aa range and then tell me again Vayne is OP?)

She also has a small dash and a passive that let's her move faster toward enemies. Oh and her ult amplifies both. So her range isn't really an issue. And tristana gets range by her passive as the game goes on. At the start the difference shouldn't be that big.

Tahminatrix 2 votes

{quoted}

  • Vayne is hard to play,

item 3193 item 3124 lethal tempo...

activate gargoyle and right click the enemy, don't dodge anything with q just use it to close the gap -> you got a kill

The Bad Touch2 votes

Bye.

WaterBear222 votes

Clearly a troll.

Buff This Champ2 votes

IDK if you're r%%%%%ed or just iron XD

True Alcove God2 votes

Right when you op.gg them you will realize it's satire

Peel for my ADC2 votes

Lol you guys are fools for believing this guy isn't using sarcasm

Malix Farwin2 votes

Bye...

KidWreck2 votes

Logged in just to say this, I stopped reading when you said ADCs are underpowered compared to top laners because vayne has a lower winrate in top lane. I'm sure if you put renekton as your adc the winrate would be abysmal? Like that has absolutely no logic at all, her winrate is lower because now you have two ADCs and no tank idiot

NoLifer20002 votes

She only has 5 escapes (Tumble, Condemn, Heal, Flash, Botrk)

Well, usually adc have 3, plus u didn't count her annoying invis in teamfight, that makes her rlly slippery.

Plus outplayable in 1v2 tower dive is not a weakness, in fact you need to outplay while diving 1v1 usually.

Her W execute isn t as high as Garen ult bcs it's a passive you'll trigger a lot. Plus it's max hp, not missing hp, it's far better.

The fact that you won't condemn in a wall all the time is fine, condemn is basically a worse trist ult, on a short CD.

All ADC are squishy, so stop whining.

And Vayne top is actually a lane bully, it has such a bad winrate bcs, as others pointed out, no tank is usualy a problem.

All ADC s are reluable on supp, and 1v5 champs shouldn't be a thing, but here we are with Vayne, Riven, Yasuo and my favourite, Death's Dance Yorick.

And it's not hard to play, only 5 games I played her I had over 15 kills with less then 5 deaths.

It's only pleasing to watch for the mains, I usualy like to see asassins and engage tanks.

Boltonator1 votes

Don’t worry OP, all of the Vayne vitriol will vanish once the new support is released.

[sg-lulu]

Sir Saltarin1 votes

LUL

letsfeedtogether1 votes

I am sorry. But all i have to say is LMAO

Lovelle1 votes

Vayne and Teemo are two champions I would not miss if they were removed from the game. Quinn is close, but thankfully hardly anyone plays her.

Schoenberg1 votes

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Vírtue1 votes

Youre sad

jocomotion1 votes

This was a very funny meme post.

Nwine1 votes

At first it seemed to be a satire, but going into the comments, this guy actually seems serious

ODiiiiiN1 votes

You had me at "Riot i'll quit".. then you lost me at "Vayne's hard to play". Didnt even read the rest. DOWN VOTE!

Uwhtazn1 votes

DO IT! QUIT! QUIT WHEN YOU SEE YOU THE FIRST VAYNE NERF! DON'T BE A BITCH TO QUIT WHEN YOU SEE IT! BITCH!

Bouwer1 votes

You're kidding right? Half of these are weong and the other half applies to literallt every other adc.

5 escapes is more than most other adc.

She cannot 1v5

Literally every adc depends on a support

Caitlyn is much harder and more mechanical than vayne

Most fun to watch is subjective

All adcs are squishy

Twitch has camouflage and his Q has a 1 second channel. Its completely different from vayne.

Who cares if W doesn't do the same damage as garen R, thats a crazy comparison.

TLDR: You must be trolling or you don't understand this game at all.

WarThief1 votes

What about no? Instead buff fiddlesticks huh? Ol ElSe I qUiT tHe GaMe! What a loser you had your time ruining the fun of others (yeah I am biased I have suffered enough of vayne)

im Iucky1 votes

Yes because you will be surely missed becaused everyone knows and cares about you leaving the game...

The Chillin1 votes

I think this post might be a joke, the bullet points were hilarious. Also ADC is objectively easy and overpowered right now are you crazy bro?

ThisName1sDumb1 votes

Why so many downvotes when this is obviously satire?

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