LB needs to be put in check.

TheSlogs··22 votes·1,725 views

I see her in almost every game, and she is outdamaging everyone. She still one hits just about everyone late game when she should be falling off. Building MR isn't effective enough against her. Something needs to be done. I suggest a little love tap on her QR and her WR.

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IAMS4T4N9 votes

lol lb is shit now with all these adcs building maw and merc scimitar and having way too much mr

SylvanasWrunner5 votes

I'd like to think that these complaints are coming out of people who got dominated by a fed LeBlanc because I don't see why building MR wouldn't be effective unless they are playing someone that is squishy as any role.

Edit: And probably if they had quite the MR, they didn't have any health items.

MunchCrunchLunch3 votes

lb bursted me with maw and merc one shot. I didn't even see the shield from maw. no joke.

EddardStark841 votes

Except that LB doesn't lane against adcs sooo that's kind of irrelevant.

Magical Zoe5 votes

Leblanc is a burst assassin. And with dealing with burst AP assassins, you build MR for late game or you camp her mid and kill her. You call missing on her at all times and play safe. Just be glad that they removed her silence on her Q.

The Governer1 votes

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SylvanasWrunner2 votes

Her Q was called Sigil of Silence because it had Silence. What are you talking about

The Governer1 votes

I deleted my comment because I realized I was wrong.

63536895_DEL1 votes

In my elo bot lane's thinks a missing ping is the signal to go all in :(

A Dizzy Lulu5 votes

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Zarvanis5 votes

LeBlanc Leblanc is extremely strong when mastered, but her global win-rate in Mid is 46.2%. In comparison, UrgotUrgot has a global win-rate in Mid of 47.9%.

This changes dramatically as the tiers go up, but it's still interesting to take note of.

Though LeBlanc in Diamond+ Is still only 48.1%. (Urgot is 37.1%)

Zedex1 votes

"Mastered"

First game I ever played as her I felt like a tool bait because it was so easy and reliable. She has no mastery curve.

RobErt D View N2 votes

Low skill floor, high skill ceiling, that is a term you seem to refuse acknowledgement....

BadmoonBC5 votes

Dude lb is actually weak right now. Just stop getting outplayed. Here's some Tips Pick lux: Save your q for when LB distortions in. When she does, q her. Combo, profit gg. Pick ANY AD: But hexdrinker/maw and steraks. lB can no longer do shit to you, and becomes irrelevant. Pick Annie: Win. Easiest counter to lb save your stun for distortion and it's like candy from a baby Pick Diana: Cast W when lb distortions in. Win. Pick Lissandra: Cast w when lb distortions in. Win Seriously man lb is weak. Just stop getting outplayed and botching about it

Raj Te Lag Comp1 votes

You forgot Ryze.

RobErt D View N1 votes

She's actually strong early/mid but horrible late/end game she needs some of her early power to shift into end game imo. She has too much early game but too little endgame.

Masala Chai4 votes

item 3102 counters LB pretty well, problem is is that it's a pretty weak item right now because it provides no offensive stats.

Only Play Darius4 votes

I don't find LB problematic right now

Bellows3 votes

I think she has way too much going for her. She has a double dash at low cd, AND an aoe, if shes fed she can double or triple kill a back line in the blink. She has too much control over being chased. Juking is cool and all but he sigil lasts too long and has about an infinite range, making chasing impossible. She jsut risks nothing for killing everyone. Champ needs an overhaul completely. Her kit is one that is not balancable. To do accept able damage with it causes toxic gameplay, and not enough damage makes her useless.

Astôlfo3 votes

Yeah which is why she's doing so great at the moment- oh wait, she isn't.

Chuck Charles3 votes

please stop with this bullshit.

im serious. leblanc being good at assassinating is intended. she is an ASSASSIN. she is also intended to be able to get in, and get out safely and quickly.

if you look at all assassins they all have the same strengths/weaknesses as Leblanc for the most part. High burst, great mobility/safety, very low sustained DPS. also incredibly squishy if building to one shot.

Just play Leblanc. I mean it. Play her and you will see why she honestly needs help right now. you can shit stomp lane. and another lane. ive had games with 600 ap at 20 minutes, but if the enemy team organizes and groups against you building MR early you are basically useless.

Leblanc is a great split pusher but her fall off is immense. once she has to use all of her abilities to one shot late game she becomes dumpster tier as her entire kit is built around dashing in, blowing someone up and blinking out. if she has to use her dash to blow up or all of cooldowns she is basically left sitting their to inevitably die.

and that is her problem. tanks are a thing right now and leblanc is only ok vs them. she becomes a more burst poke oriented mobile mage later in the game and that's just not good when you have no wave clear without distortion.

I know her lane phase is oppressive and honestly disgusting. it is. there's really not much you can do in lane besides build abyssal, get zoned out, and try to punish her if she makes a mistake.

but she is so bad later in the game right now and hard to carry with that if they nerfed her she would just be garbage. she is already honestly near that in my opinion. unless you play out of your mind on her you will never carry a game.

you will kill a ton of people and look "good" but you won't win the games. and that is what matters. Leblanc kills people, she's not winning games. even her win rate says so right now.

RebirthAngel2 votes

this is why i just plain ban her. They never touch her, yet she is the most burstiest champion i can think of. In late game, if ur not a tank, and she wants your booty, might as well just not bother. If you are a tank, there goes more than half ur life in a full combo. Q/R/ dash(forgot the button). its insane. But that is what banning is for lol.

Bisaknosp2 votes

better buff her so she can 'keep up' xDDD -Riot 2016

J E B A ł T E D1 votes

meanwhile Aatrox Ashe Azir Cassiopeia Galio Gnar Hecarim Heimerdinger Illaoi JarvanIV Kennen Maokai Malzahar Mordekaiser Nocturne Olaf Rumble Shen Sion Sona Twitch Urgot Xerath Yorick Ziggs Zilean be like - wait wut

Zarvanis4 votes

I hate being "that guy", but some of these champions are really strong right now.

Win rates in Diamond+

Zilean 54.2% (Mid) Twitch 52.4% (ADC) Malzahar 52.4% (Mid) Sion 57% (Support) (wait, what?)

Though for the most part, the rest of them aren't in a very good spot right now (or just bad).

TaoistMaster1 votes

give it a few months for sion support to catch on.

some amazing peel and engage with a good player.

Madra1 votes

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give it a few months for sion support to catch on.

some amazing peel and engage with a good player.

I love Sion support because the only players that pick it are the ones that really know what they are doing.

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

isn't malz winrate 55% now?

Zarvanis1 votes

I checked all the tiers. The highest is in Bronze, at 53.8%. It only drops by a few decimals for each of the higher tiers.

TheFrozenChosen2 votes

LB has a really strong laning phase, maybe too strong. But late game she really does fall off. While she can still pick most anyone off, if she is good enough. If there is a group then you need to play it smart, cause if you go in your just gonna die. I know when I play her I can get 9 kills in 25 min. But even if the game goes till 50 min I will only get about 5 more kills, and then like 12 assists. So late games LB actually takes skill and knowing what to do and how to pick people off. Her late game is probably why she is always at like a 47% win rate, which is actually pretty low. Also if you want to avoid most of her burst, if you are ap, zhonyas would be really good. And though I do main LB and I wouldn't like it, her laning phase probably does need a nerf.

Zedex2 votes

Just build a hexdrinker in your lane and call your MIA's. Leblanc is not overpowered, just very easy to play and very rewarding for being so easy.

But that makes sense right Riot?

Supreme Vic2 votes

Agreed, her late game is too powerful in the current meta.

statelesskiller2 votes

one of the reasons riot is reworking vladimir is and i qoute "because once you get into his range theres nothing you can do to avoid damage"

THE FUCK IS WITH LB's QR COMBO THEN RITO. she literally presses q and r late game and your adc is basically dead. and thats a targeted ability

1000angrybees2 votes

I think ive said this anytime she comes up: She needs a visual and gameplay update. She's old trash that needs to be fixed.

Slack King1 votes

My issue with her is her dash is sooo hard to punish, she can get in burst and get out in a blink.

You know, the thing they took away from Zed ult, but she has two on a low cooldown

Zane Zephyr1 votes

I also think her passive needs a sizable increase in the cooldown

It's kinda bullshit that if you do somehow manage to win a trade with her or almost kill her, she has another get-out-of-jail free card that's up by the time she gets back into lane

C9 Scott Free 1 votes

I've been playing a lot of LB lately. Honestly yeah I don't think she is really too healthy but it is genuinely hard to team fight with her unless only one or two people dive and your team focuses them.

If you lose sight on her call MIA immediately. I've killed jungles on my way to gank other lanes because they had no idea I was coming. At that point I can just go back mid with double buffs and your bot lane still has to back off. Late game is a pain for her and you. If she hits void and abyssal she is going to pop people without mercy so you want to end it before she gets enough pen to drop people with large health pools to 1/3 and you don't want to screw up the early game and feed her so she is too fed to punish mid game when team gifts are just kicking off.

Brimaz The King1 votes

Just look at my last match I smashed LB.

Ralanr1 votes

Leblanc is one of those champions that is nearly impossible to stop if fed.

In low elo anyway. I have no idea for high elo.

The point is: Do not let her get fed. If she is fed, pray you've been building MR the entire game or your teams tank has. If you have no tank on your team, well you done fucked up.

Rivenwind1 votes

LB is being put back in the spotlight because she's one of the only ones that can deal with other assassins that are currently dominating the mid scene right now. She can reliably burst them and set them behind while retaining her extreme mobility and safety.

Sound familiar? Zed

TheOvermind1 votes

Yeah as everyone is saying leblanc is not that strong at the moment because MR is very powerful currently. Still though there is nothing worse to lane against in the mid lane. QW and say goodbye to more than half your HP.

TallyZrg1 votes

Play Malzahar against her. Most people don't pay attention to space aids (so free harass) and when she goes all in you can quickly E-R her and she gets wrecked.

Make sure you build Abyssal staff early and play VERY safe until then, if you give her 1 - 2 kills there isn't much you can do since she'll hit her spike and then some making the arms race lost.

Malzahar is a very safe champion anyways so you shouldn't have any issues playing safe. This is the advice I always give to anyone that has problems against LB, the other matchup I've been trying is AP Maokai into her and have had good success so far (needs more testing though).

SouL1ess1 votes

Just take Brand against her.

Almost guaranteed win lane unless her jungler comes to gank.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Leblanc has always been cancer, even during a time where she's considered "weak".

RobErt D View N1 votes

LB has too much early game power and falls off too harshly late/end game due to her not really having a mage fall back like other mage assassins such as ahri, tf(Although he's more mage than assassin unlike ahri),

Only thing I can see riot doing is making her Q a passthrough projectile but giving her W a reactivation delay of 0.5 seconds on landing and 0.25 for ulti.

Would greatly hit her key feature but give her something to actually fall back on late/end game where she's pretty much useless.

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