R.I.P. Orlando victims and to their family; I'm sorry

TheSlogs··97 votes·7,323 views
orlando nightclub shooting

Nothing more can be said. Two days ago, the amazing Christina Grimmie is shot at concert, and now the biggest mass shooting ever in the U.S.

Donations can go here if you have money that can go to the funding of over 50 funerals, and the medical expenses of 50 people in the hospital: https://www.gofundme.com/PulseVictimsFund

228 Comments

A Liberal35 votes

I wish riot gave us an avenue to donate like a lot of other games do. I know we had Nurse Akali and Jaximus, but we haven't had a charity skin in a while. Something as simple as a rainbow icon for 250RP that could be made and uploaded literally in a day could raise a lot of money seeing as how large Riot's playerbase is.

But anyway, away from the topic of LoL this is such horrible news. As part of the gay community, I and most others I know seem to think homophobia is mostly a thing of the past, and than we wake up to news like this. This is so horrible because not only is it the largest mass shooting in US history, but it is an act of radicalized islam, homophobia, and one that could have been prevented if we had tighter gun control.

The man was on the FBI TERRORISM WATCHLIST, and yet was ALLOWED TO BUY A GUN LEGALLY.

How is it that people can't get on airplanes because their names match terrorists, but yet they can buy a gun???

Don't get me wrong, I am pro-gun rights for people who are deserving and respectful citizens. All of my family is hunters so I was raised around guns, and I own two guns in my own home. The fact of the matter is that I am a sane and stable person, and I'm not going to go shoot up a nightclub, nor have I ever been on the FBI terrorism watch-list. I deserve a gun. Someone who is spouting off that they are an ISIS supporter online, does not.

Jorencice10 votes

I'll be honest homophobia is no where near as stamped out as you think it is.

It's just anyone that even mentions a slight homophobic tendency tends to get absolutely destroyed by everyone.

So now people just keep it bottled up.

A Liberal9 votes

Good, they can keep their shitty opinions to themselves just like everyone else.

Oakleaf Ranger2 votes

from what I read it wasn't for religious purposes, may change as more information is learned though

Velzard of Koz5 votes

According to defense units he did declare worship of Alah by "praying in foreign language" (unless he happened to pray to Christian God in foreign language) and he declared via call to 911 his loayality to Islamic state. His father was the one to say his son was homophobe and this is religion unrelated, but guess why he said that. He tried to save Moslim community of whitch-hunt.

General Esdeath 14 votes

Depends, I've been told I'm a homophobe because I said I'm religious and can't say gay marriage is right. To me homophobes are the people who can't even talk about it without telling you it's gross/wrong/should be punished by death, etc.

A Liberal6 votes

I mean yeah if you think gay marriage is wrong, whatever, as long as you keep it as a personal opinion and don't start actively trying to ruin the lives of gay people or make them feel like shit there won't be any problems.

Spizzle900013 votes

The way I've always seen it is that same sex couples should be able to get married, but shouldn't be able to force, say, a Catholic priest to marry them. Ya know?

TNHA Baritone8 votes

I'm religious (and straight) and I welcome any kinds of people. Love is love. Love cares not about whether you have a penis or vagina or both or neither.

General Esdeath 8 votes

Not approving doesn't mean I don't welcome them. As long as they don't act so flamboyant about it I don't care.

TNHA Baritone4 votes

I see what you mean with the "so flamboyant" part. A lot of guys especially would be accepted if they wouldn't act so feminine (you can be masculine and still be homosexual) but at the end of the day, would you rather a person comfort to societal expectations or be themselves? But I do understand what you mean and to an extent I agree sorta.

TheSlogs7 votes

(you can be masculine and still be homosexual)

Taric

Faceroll Tactics2 votes

Garen

Draven is also planning a marriage to Draven

Spizzle90003 votes

Okay, Draven I can believe but Garen's with Katarina, remember?

Wimbledofy2 votes

yeah "love" doesn't care about age or if you're related to your family.

TNHA Baritone6 votes

Why was this comment necessary?

Troll for Trump1 votes

So an opinion you disagree with is shitty?

If a person were to disagree with feminists being too...proactive, does that mean they should be forced to shut up (It won't happen, you'll get jumped on by other feminists)

A Liberal4 votes

If your opinion marginalizes and disrespects an entire group of people, their culture, history, and struggles, than yes, it is shitty.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Saying you dislike something does not disrespect the entire group. If you tell them all to kill themselves, it does.

A Liberal2 votes

But... it does.

You see, saying you "dislike" gays isn't like saying you "dislike" marijuana smokers, or that you "dislike" heavy metal fans.

When you "dislike" gays, you are disliking all of a person. To "Dislike" gays is EXACTLY the same as "disliking" blacks, or "disliking" women. Being gay is** not a choice**, and therefore is something that opinion** does not matter on. **

You wouldn't go up to a black person and say, "You know, I'm just really uncomfortable that you're black. Sorry, it's just my opinion"

so why would you do it to a gay person?

Only Play Darius2 votes

The FBI gets an alert when someone on the terror watch list buys a gun, they usually can't restrict you from buying one though unless you have committed a felony

A Liberal4 votes

So you can't get on a plane if you're on the FBI watchlist but you can buy a gun.

10/10 good job america

Only Play Darius4 votes

The terror watch list and no-fly list are separate lists, and they can't pass legislation to restrict the constitutional rights of citizens on the no-fly list because the government can add you to it with no notification or due process and it's near impossible to remove yourself in case of a false positive, which it has a history of. The FBI should have acted on his purchase or delayed the transaction until further investigation.

Takatsuki Yayoi10 votes

As a gay, agnostic man, I really have to say this.

This is a huge tragedy in our community. So many of us have died in a place that was supposed to be our safe space, our place to be ourselves.

But please.

Please.

Stop throwing Muslims under the bus for this because of the shooter's religious beliefs. It's ignoring all of people under the LGBT spectrum who are also Muslim, and are suffering as well. And before people bring up ISIS, no one is defending them, but I swear people forget that a lot of people who are hurt by ISIS are innocent Muslims.

You wouldn't hold every Christian that has committed an atrocity as a representative of all Christian beliefs, please don't do the same for Muslims. A huge shout out to all the LGBT Muslims that are suffering today, you will always be welcome in this community.

AetherKingdom3 votes

florida's got some crazy motherfuckers lol

INoble KnightI5 votes

The shooter was a registered Democrat with a gun in a gun free zone...I wonder how this will be taken..

A Liberal13 votes

Doesn't matter what party he was registered to, he was clearly not right in the head, and was documented making pro ISIS statements, He should not have been able to get a gun in the first place.

Jorencice6 votes

Orlando isn't a gun free city...

AramsAreBest3 votes

He said gun free zone

Only Play Darius13 votes

I don't know about Orlando, but Florida is a very gun friendly state. Although if the club owner says he doesn't want guns on his property that's his call, I don't blame him since his business serves alcohol. Disgusting how this vermin targets unarmed helpless people like that.

General Esdeath 2 votes

Isn't the club?

INoble KnightI4 votes

The Club was gun free.

Pentarina Only2 votes

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TheSlogs14 votes

No words can describe the distaste I have for you.

CeexSett1 votes

Please what did he say? ;-;

A Liberal5 votes

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Jet Sett5 votes

No words can describe the incredible amount of disdain I have for these words here, it's like the darkest things in humanity came together to form an ignorant statement that unwittingly supports homophobia and genocide at once.

Jorencice7 votes

Don't worry. Pretty sure he got a 14 day ban.

Only Play Darius2 votes

Apparently so did the guy who let us know what he said. Even though he was quoting it out of context.

A Liberal3 votes

Nah I didn't get a ban :) they just told me not to discuss some topics. I think it was an automated message. Maybe someone thought I was saying it?

AninLegions7771 votes

what did he say?

Only Play Darius6 votes

Something extremely homophobic and insensitive to mass murder. Can't repeat it or I might get banned.

BG Death5 votes

Please report this man

LatetotheRace2 votes

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Wolfeur2 votes

Why do you think they're muslims?

LatetotheRace4 votes

3 Things.

  1. They suspect him to be part of ISIS which is a predominantly Islamic group.
  2. His name is very middle-eastern, "Omar Mateen" and if you take a look at the most recent grievous events like mass shootings and bombing you'll see a pattern.
  3. A motive. Why would a random man just shoot up a club, and especially a gay one? If it was a regular club and they denied him access sure, but I seriously doubt this club would really care about turning anyone away. So I will assume it was because of his Islamic faith.

All in all, it's just watching the patterns. There are many immigrants in this country who have brought their ideologies with them, and refuse to adjust and adopt our culture. Whereas this man was born in NY, it's obvious that his parents enforced their very different and likely aggressive lifestyle on him.

Game girl 12 votes

You must not understand how much mass shooting is going on in the middle east right now. It would make that chart look like nothing. Sunni vs Shia Shia vs Sunni Muslim vs Christian Muslim vs Jew Muslim vs Kurdish Muslim vs Ba'hai

I don't understand why people are so quick to defend these people when they are commiting atrocities throught the middle east. Nobody talks about any of this stuff buy you mention Islamic attacks on the US and everyone jumps to their side.

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