daily reminder varus is still weak

khorney··1 votes·940 views

daily reminder regardless of what peopel say varus is still weak

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UberAffe1 votes

His passive is borderline useless and his ult is extremely hard to hit considering what you gain from a hit, those are the two things that I think need the most immediate attention.

That said I wouldn't call him weak, he definitely isn't a top tier champion but he is somewhere in the middle ground and you can still do very well with him. (still my favorite champion to play)

khorney1 votes

ohh he is on the bottom list as far as adcs are conscerned. people will still write well u can poke .... big fckn whoop. high cds high mana cost low aa range.

sharkrat1 votes

Have you tried a different build path such as building cooldown in either a crit focused build with bloothirster (the mana regain one) or an onhit with bork rageblade black clever and runaans. Both significantly allow his cds to be managed as an adc or if your going for mid lane assassin varus the black clever manamune is still very good for making your q steal objectives and one shit a squishy target. Varus is my best adc by far. I've been playing him for 3 seasons now.

khorney1 votes

yes and he cant make use of any of the keystones very well. His on hit build to me was by far hi strongest form of build. With the change in the fervor of battle/nerf , this weakens him, now with the change in the lethality this weakens his caster build due to the fact his q will not do that much damage, however with the change in items he is unable to utilize them very well or at all(duskblade). He is the only adc i honestly liek to use due to the fact his ap hybrid power

Nick Da Chip2 votes

I gotta say, I think thunder lords is perfect for Varus. His early game damage really comes out by two autos and a q anyways, so it only helps that case. If you are just going Q poke Varus though I suppose it would be less useful.

khorney1 votes

exactly none of the keystones really do him any good. he doesnt have the kite for warlords, i mean it works however i find it to work if you run lifesteal runes and items

UberAffe1 votes

Actually varus beats out over half of all adc's in terms of range and he has the 3rd highest range of all adc's if you don't count abilities/passives.

He is solidly in the middle of the road as far as adc's go, I would argue that he is borderline tier 1 if you actually make good use of his w.

khorney1 votes

you have to count abilities and passives.

UberAffe1 votes

even counting those his is still above the average

khorney1 votes

umm average being every one else varus then kog....

Furor Nexis1 votes
khorney1 votes

yes that is the onhit hybrid build which is his strongest build by far i can careless what people say.

SwiftKitten881 votes

at least his win-rate isn't in the thirties... cough Nidalee

khorney1 votes

nids winrate has and did slowly diterate ever since they nerfed the hitbox on spear.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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nids winrate has and did slowly diterate ever since they nerfed the hitbox on spear.

???, ummm... i honestly have ZERO idea how you came up with that. that's like saying "grass is purple"... just.. no... you're wrong.

i don't even know how to respond to that..

khorney1 votes

her hitbox to her spear used to be bigger like varus q, but they made it smaller ? when somethign is harder to hit do u think people will win with her more or less

SwiftKitten881 votes

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her hitbox to her spear used to be bigger like varus q, but they made it smaller ? when somethign is harder to hit do u think people will win with her more or less

the hitbox of her spearused to be bigger before her rework (release nidalee to patch 4.9)... it had a 60 width pre-rework, patch 4.10 the halfed it to 30 width, and in 4.11 the increased it to 40 width, where it has been ever since.

since 4.11, with her 40 width spear, her win-rate has had no correlation to her spear width, in any way shape or form.

Wolftastic331 votes

Friendly reminder that there are Varus buffs on pbe. His passive will now scale with more AS

UberAffe1 votes

but the passive still only activates after your target is dead, so it is still a crappy passive, its just less bad in a few specific situations.

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