Can we give Riven more counter play to her burst?

Tomosima··6 votes·1,148 views

Flashing into you or just Qs Es into you and W auto attacks Qs Rs in 0.2 secs to insta kill you is just frustrating to fight against. Either lower her damage output or remove her animation canceling so that she needs some time to do her full combo which gives me coutner play.

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Mira Arya Enthe6 votes

"Riven has no counterplay when played perfectly!" Boards "Riven can't do those flashy things in challenger because good players know how to deal with her." Pro-Coach LS to Boxbox

Tomosima3 votes

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"Riven has no counterplay when played perfectly!" Boards "Riven can't do those flashy things in challenger because good players know how to deal with her." Pro-Coach LS to Boxbox

just cause 0.1% of people can deal with her she aint a problem anymore?

Mira Arya Enthe2 votes

A bronze player can deal with a bronze Riven. A silver player can deal with a silver Riven. A gold player can deal with a gold Riven. A plat player can deal with a plat Riven. A diamond player can deal with a diamond Riven. A master player can deal with a master Riven. A challenger player can deal with a challenger Riven.

The people who cannot deal with Riven A: Refuse to learn, B: Are tilted, C: Played worse than them that game, D: Are playing Vladimir or GP.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

E) Are playing master yi top and can't alpha morgana Q at max range

Asayake 5150glow4 votes

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just cause 0.1% of people can deal with her she aint a problem anymore?

Well only 0.1% of people can play her that well, and you're saying that's a problem?

Tomosima3 votes

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Well only 0.1% of people can play her that well, and you're saying that's a problem?

Doesnt take a rocket scientist to watch a box box how to video

Asayake 5150glow4 votes

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Doesnt take a rocket scientist to watch a box box how to video

Takes more than a box box how to video to play her well lmao.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Unless you're delusional.

ßurst1 votes

yea youre ignorant i can tell lol

SrbLud4 votes

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just cause 0.1% of people can deal with her she aint a problem anymore?

Not everyone can pull of her full combo consistently. 99% of the time it's situational. You have to be a perfect Riven player to do it every time.

Any champ is OP in the right hands.

What if i told you i can 100-0 you with Cait in seconds. You step on the trap. a (HS)/e/q/a (HS)/r (r is situational )

It's all about learning your champ.

Penns1 votes

Challenger players know how to deal with Riven so they suddenly forget how to animation cancel and "do those flashy things"? xd

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

No, doing a bunch of risky plays doesn't work as Riven in challenger, because high tier players can most certainly counterplay it.

Penns1 votes

And how? You cant dodge her Q, her W, her auto attacks, maybe her ult with flash but she uses it when youre stunned anyway lel. Her combos just dont really have counterplay, at least I doubt a challenger is gonna dodge a flash+ult + double cast or something like that.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Go ahead and watch LS coaching BoxBox in a challenger game. Watch how ineffective one of the above average Riven mains can be made by superior enemies.

Penns1 votes

Define "ineffective".. Hes playing against Jayce, one of the only champs that can really beat a good Riven, + Lulu and Ori so..

GULAG 4 U4 votes

The only time riven has no counterplay from her burst is with animation cancelling. (Or flash), which isn't something exclusive to riven.

Asayake 5150glow4 votes

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The only time riven has no counterplay from her burst is with animation cancelling. (Or flash), which isn't something exclusive to riven.

Nah, she really needs both flash and animation canceling, unless she pops out of a nearby bush,

ßurst2 votes

The point that she has to flash is counterplay enough it limits her to kill you only every 5 minutes 255 seconds with mastery if thats not counterplay enough idk, but even then riven is a really high skill cap champ.

Niyumi2 votes

If they ever nerfed Riven into reality, and actually fixed her bugs, then Riot would lose a lot of money. So, you better get used to some bullshit champion abusing bugs that Riot refuses to do anything about.

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