Why Autofill is a bad system

Jbels··10 votes·1,816 views

Autofill was designed to reduce queue times by essentially forcing somebody to play a role that was needed to fill out a team comp. However, not only does it fail to save time, it frustrates people and passively causes them to play worse.

**Autofill attacks you on a psychological level before you even get into queue, and continues to do so up until before you get into game. **

The fact that you can see it there, letting you know that it exists and that there is a chance you will be filled to a role you don't play, don't play well, don't want to play, is a constant tilter. When you get into game and you got the role you want, the relief is alright, but then somebody dodges (another issues that Riot has yet to address because they're too chickenshit to give incentive to not dodge / meaningful punishment for doing so) and now you're stuck with a role you didn't want to play in the first place.

You wanted to try out a new champion to add to your jungle pool, or a new strat for your main that you've heard is promising. No. More than likely, you just got shoved into support even though it isn't even your fault that somebody else dodged. You got punished for something bad that somebody else did, and now you're tilted. Now you either face what you know is most likely going to be a miserable experience where you'll probably get flamed by the adc and the rest of your team because despite trying your best, you're just not as good as an actual support main. Why the hell should this even be happening? To save a minute here and there?

Autofill wastes more time than it actually saves

Even without the wasted games not playing what you want to practice for ranked, or just try out, there's also all of the time wasted just trying to get into the game in the first place. Not everyone is content to sit there and just take being autofilled, and will dodge to go do something else. Because they don't see wasting a half hour being worth anything. This fucks over everyone else (as you already know) since they all get shoved back into queue and run the risk of being given a role they don't want .

Then you get the people who are pissed off that after getting the role they wanted last game, the dodge left them either with their secondary role, or support. Guess what happens next. They dodge. And the cycle starts again. The most amount of champion selects I've ever been through in one sitting is 9. 9 fucking champion selects. By the time I actually got into the game finally, an entire game's worth of time had gone by!

Ranked integrity is affected by autofill

The problem is compounded further when you think about how this affects the ranked ladder. How the hell is anyone supposed to know whether or not they actually won that game fighting the enemy team at it's best when autofill is so rampant? You're having entire games lost because this one guy who's a really good top laner and an alright jungler got neither of these roles and was autofilled to something else, where he has little to no experience and is now suddenly a detriment to his team when he starts feeding kills to the rank 7 whatever that actually got their preferred role.

What this boils down to is that ranked is now a cesspool of RNG. You either got a team where everyone got a role they play or are happy with, or you got 1 or more players autofilled to roles they don't play playing against players who got what they want. How are we as players supposed to take the climb seriously when we go on big winstreaks because of lucky matchmaking or horrible loss streaks because we got autofilled or our team got an autofill. I would rather wait 2-3 more minutes for a support/mid/jungle/adc/top who actually know what they are doing than get into champion select quickly and be match with players displaced from their best roles, and I know I'm not the only one. I had a game where My top had queued up for Mid, my Mid had queued up for Jungle, my ADC got what they wanted, I had queued for top, but gotten autofilled to support. Why the hell did we all recieve each other's preferred roles when we all wanted what each of the other people on our team got? What sense does that make?!

If you aren't going to remove autofill, or even make it work better, then could you at least reward the people who don't dodge the autofill? Give them some free IP or a free key fragment for winning or something, I dunno. And I'm not talking about people who queue up for support every game, I mean people who were put into a role they didn't queue up for.

tl;dr Autofill tilts people before they even get into game, wastes more time than it saves, and makes it hard to take ranked seriously.

9 Comments

Dethflash3 votes

THIS IS 100% true. i litearlly just went through 6 champion selects getting the role i wanted each time but someone dodges EACH TIME, well the 7th time i get into champion select i get autofilled, so i basically waited 15 minutes to get autofilled thanks for nothing riot. As you already said autofill actually INCREASES waiting time to get into a game because of how many times someone dodges champion select because they got autofilled. I seriously don't remember the last game i got in where i wasnt in atleast 2 different champion selects before i got into that game. What you should really do riot, is when someone picks Fill as their first role, they should be able to exclude a role they dont want to get filled, and just trash the crappy autofill system that only causes more trolls and feeders. I for one would happily pick fill if i knew i wasnt going to get adc half the time (thats my luck, my worst role adc).

Finn Teh Human1 votes

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SwiftKitten881 votes

umm no... its not in fact its freaking brilliant.

early season 6.. i went jungle primary and secondary support and for THRITY ranked games in a row... i was given "support" (I'm not kidding OR exaggerating if u care to check its in my match history)

and every support was pretty hard to carry with. because the ONLY people picking it were like people people who were WILLING to support.

NOW i can go "jungle/support" and i get jungle about 1/2 to 1/3rd of the time, and when i DO support its NORMALLY an easy lane becuaser THIER suppose had a chance to be autofilled.. meaning its is REALLY easy to carry as support.

So much so that if u now want to carry a game.. i recommend picking support because there is a HIGH chance you going to EASILY get your adc fed. and i actaully went on a 16 game winstreak AS SUPPORT because of this.

people dont like support? and Riot make it so if u LEARN support and get GOOD at it you can EASILY carry games because THEIR support wont be as good as you.

this is like the best possible way to get more people to play support, and therefore fix the issue meaning less people get autofilled in the first place.. its a Win-Win.. and its brilliant.

Jbels1 votes

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umm no... its not in fact its freaking brilliant.

early season 6.. i went jungle primary and secondary support and for THRITY ranked games in a row... i was given "support" (I'm not kidding OR exaggerating if u care to check its in my match history)

and every support was pretty hard to carry with. because the ONLY people picking it were like people people who were WILLING to support.

NOW i can go "jungle/support" and i get jungle about 1/2 to 1/3rd of the time, and when i DO support its NORMALLY an easy lane becuaser THIER suppose had a chance to be autofilled.. meaning its is REALLY easy to carry as support.

So much so that if u now want to carry a game.. i recommend picking support because there is a HIGH chance you going to EASILY get your adc fed. and i actaully went on a 16 game winstreak AS SUPPORT because of this.

people dont like support? and Riot make it so if u LEARN support and get GOOD at it you can EASILY carry games because THEIR support wont be as good as you.

this is like the best possible way to get more people to play support, and therefore fix the issue meaning less people get autofilled in the first place.. its a Win-Win.. and its brilliant.

Everyone knew back then that queuing for support secondary was pretty much just queuing for support primary. I'm glad you've found success playing as a support but here's the thing. I CAN play support. I have Sion, I'm good to role (pun intended) on that. But I don't want to, and us being able to support and carry our ADCs doesn't solve any of the other inherent problems that Autofill has. It isn't just people getting autofilled to support, even though that's the most common place to get autofilled to. It could be any role that they can't play

Kulthor1 votes

The problem is compounded further when you think about how this affects the ranked ladder. How the hell is anyone supposed to know whether or not they actually won that game fighting the enemy team at it's best when autofill is so rampant? You're having entire games lost because this one guy who's a really good top laner and an alright jungler got neither of these roles and was autofilled to something else, where he has little to no experience and is now suddenly a detriment to his team when he starts feeding kills to the rank 7 whatever that actually got their preferred role.

I'm glad finally someone understands this, It's like RIOT doesn't give a shit about their playerbase. Before, it was a one out of 5 chance that you got last pick, now, you're bound to get autofill every 2 games, due to people constantly dodging because they got autofill. This system is ruining the potential for players to shine with the role they desire. Why should we risk 20 lp because of a system that's designed to reduce the match making by 2 minutes? This doesn't just affect me, it affects the entire team as a whole. The entire autofill system is forcing players to play something they're CLEARLY not comfortable with. If they were, they'd actually pick that role.

Master Vemira1 votes

not gonna lie, whenever i get autofilled, i pick something off meta, and ima lose having fun

Milla Jovovich1 votes

Autofill is here since launch.I'll take it any day over the ancient "pick order" and calling your roles first.

Jiharu1 votes

Make it so you are role protected if someone dodges, problem solved

pizzapochette1231 votes

completely agree with it, it won't change to the fact that riot doesn't give a fuck about our opinion they can't swallow their fkin pride and make the right decisions.

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