why do divers have so much lockdown + mobility and high damage

Big Lincoln·Jan 27, 2017·4 votes·393 views

but all juggernauts get is slightly better base stats (not even that sometimes)

doesn't seem like we're making fair tradeoffs here

7 Comments

RalanrJan 27, 20175 votes

Honestly I expected Divers would be less durable. But that doesn't really feel like the case.

Big LincolnJan 27, 20171 votes

Hecarim has 4k health and a ton of resists while only building item 3078 for offense

doesn't even DPS anybody, he just nukes a squishy of his choice off the map

and unlike every juggernaut except for Darius and Volibear he gets to use cotc for that extra shield HP

RalanrJan 27, 20175 votes

We don't use Hecarim as a base example for divers considering he's an unholy mix of divers, juggernauts, and vanguards.

Asayake 5150glowJan 27, 20171 votes

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has 4k health and a ton of resists while only building for offense

doesn't even DPS anybody, he just nukes a squishy of his choice off the map

and unlike every juggernaut except for Darius and Volibear he gets to use cotc for that extra shield HP

We all know Heca's op, how about Aatrox ? He's a diver too.

Asayake 5150glowJan 27, 20172 votes

Trundle outstats any Diver by like... 200%... at least, when he ults+in his Domain. That's not 'slightly better'.

Also, Trundle easily outdamages or matches the damage of any Diver. 300 damage Q at level 7 or so is fucking bullshit.

DolasaurJan 28, 20172 votes

A lot of juggernauts get way more sustain. Illaoi or Darius smacking 5 people with their Qs is going to heal a ton while doing lots of damage. Irelia or Fiora isn't going to be able to survive nearly as much damage. Your diver is going to go in and wreak havoc for 3-5 seconds, and then she has either won or died. If Mundo or Volibear goes in, that fight can last a lot longer, which can give your Ziggs/Kog'Maw/Xerath time to shine.

LordGeovanniJan 29, 20171 votes

a bad slow and a small aoe pillar smaller than miss fortunes e with no damage on it.ps juggarnauts also get sustain with out haveing to commit or large shields.