i cant remember the last time i saw a Tristana

Big Lincoln·Mar 22, 2017·3 votes·748 views

that wasn't me playing her. I see Kalista and Sivir more than I see her

why does she do so many different things but exceed at none of them

is she outclassed in every category besides self peel?

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RalanrMar 22, 20172 votes

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is she outclassed in every category besides self peel?

I think? Unless Vayne beats her there.

Isn't Tristana's main selling point her safety amongst marksmen?

Big LincolnMar 22, 20172 votes

yeah she's supposed to be the safe pick but Caitlyn is safer early and after the rework scales better late, with the same mid game slump if they aren't fed

but she's also supposed to be a DPS, burst, tower killing reset bouncing carry

most of that other marksmen specialize in and do better though so there's never a comp where trist would be a good pick

RalanrMar 22, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Wpzwzarg,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-03-22T18:34:34.489+0000)

but she's also supposed to be a DPS, burst, tower killing reset bouncing carry

Those two as specializations on one champion shouldn't be a thing.

Big LincolnMar 22, 20171 votes

that's what she does tho

E gives her delayed burst, Q rounds it off with DPS

RalanrMar 22, 20171 votes

Combining those onto one kit doesn't seem easy to balance.

Lil Lewd WitchMar 22, 20171 votes

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Isn't Tristana's main selling point her safety amongst marksmen?

That and Tower Taking power mid-late game. But the current item builds just don't really suit her power spikes and most ADCs will come online before she does.

Taliyah RocksMar 22, 20172 votes

My main adc is Tristana =D quite frankly i'm glad she's not played more. I find it weird because she handles herself well against assassin, she can usually peel for herself. Her main problem is her short early game range, and she's stronger lategame, so she has trouble shining in this snowball meta.

singiel38Mar 22, 20171 votes

I've mained her and I'm not sure about maining anymore, in my opinion range isn't her only problem. I think her problems are: problematic long cast time and slow dashing with W. It makes pretty easy to predict it and cancel it, so this skill is designed for chasing and repositioning rather than escaping. Her E takes some time to stack it. Sure it has nice damage if stacked, but stacking it isn't easy. MissFortune Vayne Annie Veigar and many champs just need one click to deal broken damage, while trist stacks it too slow, she is being killed faster than her E even explode and this makes her outclassed by many champs. Her passive nerf in marksman class update was pretty bad choice. Jinx can have 700 range on lvl 9 if maxing Q while trist has lower range even on lvl 18. I don't even feel that i have bigger range on lvl 18 with her now. But generally, she's balanced and fair.

WinTheWarOnPantsMar 22, 20172 votes

Tristana is bad for a very simple reason. Her E is the only AD scalling ability in her kit. Her W and Ult scale with AP only, and deal MAGIC(very important) dmg. Ad items are honestly Over Powered right now, but Tris can't make use of any of them very well. If riot made her W and ult scale with AD and deal Physical dmg she would be god tier.

BunnyStellaMar 23, 20171 votes

It's actually absurd the number of AP ratios in her kit compared to AD. I feel like the fact that she scales mediocrely with both AD and crit make her rather underwhelming late game when her passive suggests that that should be when she is strongest. I really don't get at what point in the game Tristana is supposed to be strong.

WinTheWarOnPantsMar 23, 20171 votes

It's not absurd. It was a way so separate her from other marksman and give her variety in her builds. Now that AD is just plain better than everything else, full AD teams are insanely strong, and having more than 1 magic dmg champ on your team can be a huge weakness, Tristana magic dmg and scaling holds her back. It's not her kit that's the problem though, it's the other marksman and the absurd AD itemization that's out of line.

ZankrenMar 22, 20171 votes

I've seen Trist a lot more recently, now that the meta is shifting back away from lethality builds. Especially with lulu being in a good place right now, Trist Lulu is a great late game combo

PermabannedGarenMar 22, 20171 votes

I'm glad Tristana's weak tbh. She's got far too much going for her kit-wise to be good, and is among the safest ADCs in the game, yes, safer than even Caitlyn.

Big LincolnMar 22, 20172 votes

ya that's what I said

she does too much shit, the rework she got in 2014 only made it worse

they should take a closer look at her one day

OurLestradeMar 22, 20171 votes

I've been pulling her out in my bonus games lately and I feel like I don't really do much damage. The way her E works might be part of it, since lots of ADCs can blow her up before her main source of damage can even go off.

BreakuMar 22, 20171 votes

She has very high dueling potential as well. I've been spamming her recently.

doodlebob666Mar 22, 20171 votes

I tried tristana once, felt like i was doing nothing, positioning was easy as hell because of the jump and the ult. range felt unearned because there was no cooldown to it, when ever i get filled to ad i like champs like twitch kog and jinx who can extend their range, attack speed boost felt low impact but i felt terrible without it. bomb felt worthless because i was being rewarded for doing something that i would have done anyway. She is somehow both overloaded in what she can do, and way to boring to play because there isn't enough you need to worry about, its like if gp barrels automatically snapped to range to chain up if you place them badly

KaìjuMar 22, 20171 votes

I can, she fed.

chipndip1Mar 22, 20171 votes

Tristana has no skill shots to round her kit with, really. Makes it hard to allow her to be good without her being overbearing because there's very little to "miss" or "mess up" on Tristana.

This is a problem point with MANY older champions in this game and Riot continues to fuck this up time and time again. It's actually amazing.