I feel that would be a solid but not over bearing buff. Minion passthrough would be amaaazing but i feel to much. After the armor nerfs I feel Rammus is not going to be "OK"
http://orig00.deviantart.net/89d2/f/2012/362/2/1/colored_in_rammus_by_ichi_ren-d5pit1c.jpg
XaviorZeroBlazer18 votesi just want to tickle that rammus in the pic and chose not to read anything else in this thread
ShinobisDemon2 votesi just want to tickle that rammus in the pic and chose not to read anything else in this thread
Watch this video then, rammus is love rammus is life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URKDL4sOolk
XaviorZeroBlazer2 votesthat was worth scrolling down for, and an up vote
Kouga5 votesI agree with a slow reduction rather than actual tenacity.
Crowe Stalker2 votesYea, Tenacity doesn't make a lot of sense on Rammus in my opinion? I mean after he does his full combo he's just auto attacking and it's not like his Ground Tremor is a channel or anything. Slow Reduction would make more sense for him.
CreationFlaw1 votesDidn't the thornmail change help rammus? Also, just give him a large amount of slow reduction when in powerball. I'm tired of getting smacked to 250 ms mid ball when I hit a shroom or something that slows.
ReshiKillim2 votesEdit: My total mistake, so this stupid post was removed.
junglerboy168 votesDo the math before spouting circle jerk misinformation. Thorn mail is (ironically) much stronger as a standalone item and scales exceptionally well on Rammus in particular, especially against teams where the main auto attackers aren't 100% physical DPS.
Until your enemy deals more than 167 raw physical damage with their auto attacks, the new thorn mail deals more damage than the old one as a single stand alone item, and it takes even more raw physical damage if you factor in that it now scales with his DBC bonus armor as well (they need to deal more than ~337 raw physical damage per attack to take less return damage than before the Thornmail nerf)
Even late game on Rammus it is at least as good as before since it returns what is equivalent to the auto attacker dealing 697 raw physical damage per hit if he can stack armor and activate DBC, which even against an ADC is roughly the same return damage as before on average.
Thornmail is also exceptional for boosting jungle clear speeds now since the return damage is guaranteed to be sometimes almost 50% higher than before when facing monsters.
ReshiKillim2 votesEmbarrassingly enough, this is my bad mistake.
Sorry for the misinformation, I missed the part on damage return not being reduced by Black-cleaver. >_<
Rueian1 votesmake him slow immune, like Yi jkjk
Meep Man1 votesDidn't the thornmail change help rammus? Also, just give him a large amount of slow reduction when in powerball. I'm tired of getting smacked to 250 ms mid ball when I hit a shroom or something that slows.
Indeed, plus Rammus got a 10 damage buff on his W and a 0.5 armor per level buff. Thornmail change did in fact help him since Thornmail and his W gives him 240 bonus armor, giving him 60 bonus damage on Thornmail passive and 24 bonus damage on his W.
HOWEVER, I feel like this is a fitting mechanic to put on Rammus' Q...
I GANK LANES1 votesit's 120 bonus armor at max rank
Rueian1 votesNot his Q, his W should give him tenacity. His Q having tenacity wouldn't make much sense.
Ariel the Cruel1 votesHe still won't be able to reach Kalista.
gaby1best1 votesShe kills herself by hitting him tho.
The Bíg Ticket1 votesWhy would you buff Rammus? He is strong currenty. People just haven't figured out that Cinderhulk sucks on him and you have to build Devourer instead.
BuzzinTate4 votesRammus is strongest in lane right now because even though he's supposed to be able to tank the entire enemy team late game he has no chance at that currently.
The Bíg Ticket1 votesNo he never was supposed to tank the entire team late game. Late game tanks are an illusion, he is incredibly tanky in the early and midgame, especially at level 9 where no one is gonna break through that 120 MR and armor.
MeesterMoo1 votesI use his Q to last hit when I play him top LOL
gaby1best1 votesAnd you're proud?
TheVishual1 votesThe last thing you want on a champion with point and click cc is to make it super easy to use said point and click cc
Laustin Space1 votesReal talk they should just make his Q avoid lane minions or maybe push them aside like Sion's ult. Wouldn't really hurt his split pushing much at all or his capability to play top. It's the QoL buff he need's to keep up with other junglers who can easily gap close for their gank without this awkward mechanic.
I GANK LANES3 voteshe'd be a ganking op maniac running around the map. he'd literally be unstoppable with the MS he gets plus how long it is, i think 8 seconds
gaby1best1 votesHe got buffed last patch.
Trash ADC Btw1 votesHow about it scales upwards in damage and knockback based on how fast he's moving as well?
o0O Madoka O0o1 votesKinda makes senses for a unstoppable ball. I'm just not sure if it will make him too strong to be stopped.
Budupops1 voteshe would be extremely brokent rhen
ninjaIRL 1 votesWhat if his Powerball damage scaled with movement speed like Hecarim's charge?
Scale it with movement so that he isn't OP. This would buff him to top tier with the new DMP item.
IGotScuttleCrabs3 votesAP movement speed assassin Rammus becomes a thing
SH Azykan2 votes 
"Rammus after red can you gank top?" (as Blue side)
"Ok"
5.5 secs later "An ally is legendary " (Channel time for TP and he has to get powerball ramped a little P:)
Silents4291 votesThe armor "nerfs" helped Rammus.
And giving him tenacity isn't a good idea, Maybe higher speed when he rolls.
vRuM0lvKDV1 votesIdk how you guys do but I always do great with rammus. I played him full move speed top and I've won 4/4 games with it LOL. Also he's good ap, and normal build. He's definitely still viable.
BuzzinTate1 votesWhat if it just gave him a spell shield, then if someone threw out a stun or a slow he'd be able to get around it
