Thornmail is feast or famine because it gives no bonus HP.

Darth Sidiouss··2 votes·547 views

item 3075 right now for the gold its worth gives this glass tank feel and nothing more. Which is why sun fire item 3068 is more standardized early. It offers everything you need. Best all around tank item. Thornmail needs to give flat HP or bonus % HP based off max health so ADC or assassins cant abuse.

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ZephyrDrake3 votes

No, thornmail is a cheap item that gives the highest amount of armor in the game. You want HP? There's plenty of items that give HP already, we do not need another HP + armor item

Dominick Destine3 votes

It could stand to get a small buff... but HP is not the answer.

What it needs is to apply grievous wounds to the attacker, that would solve the problem right there.

ABlueQuaker3 votes

It's a situational 6th item. I like it how it is. Get your standard tank items, then pick up Thornmail if the enemy team is AD Heavy/Auto-Attack reliant. Thornmail has always been polarising when it's been a viable early/mid-game item. Right now only a fool would get Thornmail any earlier than 3rd item. Keep it this way.

item 3047 item 3110 item 3143 item 3075 is still incredibly cancerous to deal with as an AD-Heavy team, or as an AD Champion in general and it's relatively inexpensive.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

item 3075 is the Armor equivalent to item 3147 or item 3089 . It isn't MEANT to be a rush item let alone one you get every game, if ti was, it would mean it was broken.

If HP is really an issue, just pair it with item 3083

FireDrizzle1 votes

@Abluequacker @ChaddyFantome You say Thornmail isnt meant to be purchased early, but I 1v2ed an ad toplaner and Camille jungle with this item rushed on Yorick. I think it's a good choice if your lane opponent and enemy jungler are ad.

Titanium701 votes

Actually I consider Thormail a great item. You just need to build something else as well.

It just suffers the same issues as the whole Tank-Itemization, it is not slot-efficient and feels really weak in end-game.

Giving it HP would be a sore decision - we dont need 50 Items with the same stats and different passives. That's item 3046 not item 3087 diversity item 3094 at all item 3085! That's an enchantment. Which is fun - but no item diversity.

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