Graves is unironically a ranged tanky assassin with ridiculous jungle clears.

Dasdi96··92 votes·17,309 views

He can literally clear a side of his jungle in 30 seconds, take no damage while doing so, walk into your lane, do 1/2 hp in 1 auto while facetanking your damage. He has avoided nerfs for so long. The statistics show it. 52% winrate and 21% pickrate.

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z63XnLCMwX33 votes

Graves is a ranged tanky assassin caster. FTFY

Z3Sleeper31 votes

120 bonus armor from an ability. Feelsbalancedman.

FCJAAAAGOOOO6 votes

Wasn't the original Graves'...not nearly that high?

Z3Sleeper13 votes

Yeah, it used to be 30 armor and magic resist. It's not that big of a difference tbh if you look from a few planets away.

Verxint4 votes

Imagine if a melee champ got that kind of a defensive steroid...

Sad Chihuahua1 votes

Old Rammus did.

0 Hogapu3 votes

Leona does

Daddy Ants1 votes

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Leona does

Jax does but it's on his R.

Shrek Luigi1 votes

aftershock? :o)

Daddy Ants1 votes

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aftershock? :o)

People are talking about in kit defensive steroids, not runes.

Jax gets Tank Stats from R. Leona gets tank stats from her W.

Shrek Luigi1 votes

aftershock is also a defensive steroid tho :o)

CIayman1 votes

A melee champ whose entire purpose isn't to be a tank

Noor Sakata10 votes

He is a Ranged Assassin Bruiser Tank ADC Juggernaut Caster

Chillee3 votes

Not enough roles IMO, needs sum' buffs

Ratpie9 votes

While some junglers can get annoying, Graves is one that I groan whenever I see. Half the time I trash him cause sucky people play him a lot with his high pick rate, but people who are good with him or unstoppable right now. I know either I will get fed or be able to do nothing to stop him.

Dasdi969 votes

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While some junglers can get annoying, Graves is one that I groan whenever I see. Half the time I trash him cause sucky people play him a lot with his high pick rate, but people who are good with him or unstoppable right now. I know either I will get fed or be able to do nothing to stop him.

Unfortunately right now there are way too many booster champions in the jungle right now, and graves is one of them.

Lovelle II1 votes

It can't be helped. Riot nerf-hammered the other champs I play Trundle, so I've resorted to playing marksmen in the jungle. Riot seems to give them some leeway when it comes to balancing, so they're pretty safe to main and generally do well with. Even if you start out bad, there's always a chance to come back due to their scaling and once you complete an item or two you can hard carry.

Kloak9 votes

Thank you CertainlyT. I love getting deleted off the fucking server in 2 auto's while being blinded.

Smartness Immune1 votes

Make it 1, if he's fed. I was playing Support, and i was unaware he was 10/12 kills, +Dark Harvest. He legit 1 shot me.

FIDDLESTICKS B0T2 votes

And you're just realizing this now? The same three champs have been top tier in the jungle for this entire season, and Riot doesn't give a shit. But Nunu good for a patch? Pff, what are you stupid? We can't have NUNU existing as a VIABLE CHAMPION!

Chillee2 votes

Imagine maining Azir, if a pro thinks about playing him, he will get 5 nerfs.

Also they legit reworked Azir by removing his valuable range, but giving him more damage. Then the just removed all his extra damage. Like... WHAT

Kairoptra2 votes

Okay, but why did you put "unironically"? In what way does that apply. I don't think you know what it means, or else use it far too often when you don't need to.

Flashes4 votes

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Okay, but why did you put "unironically"? In what way does that apply. I don't think you know what it means, or else use it far too often when you don't need to.

It's unironically because no one would possibly think that anyone could ever make such a ridiculous concept.

Rock MD5 votes

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Okay, but why did you put "unironically"? In what way does that apply. I don't think you know what it means, or else use it far too often when you don't need to.

There used to be this meme about Lee Sin being a, "tank assassin mage adc" so on so forth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXxcpaCr1hw

Dr Poro2 votes

Ranged melee tanky dps assassin mage tank support and jungler all wrapped up in one defective man.

PowerSlave9931 votes

Tanky + his E + deaths dance = knock knock

Paintchip1 votes

Is he stronger in higher elos, cuz in bronze/silver level I usually always beat him? Never see him as this huge beast everyone talks about.

DuskDaUmbreon5 votes

Usually in lower tiers it's reliant on him getting ahead to dominate.

Also, you probably see a lot of bad Graves's who are only playing him because he's "strong", then subsequentially feeding their asses off on him because they're terrible at him.

Flashes1 votes

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Is he stronger in higher elos, cuz in bronze/silver level I usually always beat him? Never see him as this huge beast everyone talks about.

In bronze and silver people don't know how to aim his q, how his ult works, how to reset autoattacks with E, how to GET ARMOR with ability, and how to smokescreen to help allies because they "want the kill".

Graves is incredibly powerful on his own, but in conjunction with other good players, he becomes overbearing.

I remember playing him in silver or bronze TOP LANE and winning easily because he was so good at everything.

BestPudgeNA1 votes

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He can literally clear a side of his jungle in 30 seconds, take no damage while doing so, walk into your lane, do 1/2 hp in 1 auto while facetanking your damage. He has avoided nerfs for so long. The statistics show it. 52% winrate and 21% pickrate.

Oh look it's the daily shitpost about Graves. How about they undo the gutting of the jungle role in 8.10 and the Stormrazor buffs instead of nerfing one of the 2 Junglers that literally isn't useless all fucking game.

Dasdi961 votes

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Oh look it's the daily shitpost about Graves. How about they undo the gutting of the jungle role in 8.10 and the Stormrazor buffs instead of nerfing one of the 2 Junglers that literally isn't useless all fucking game.

Lol the jungle role is still broken. Early game junglers are now better than ever.

Mitzillfi1 votes

Welcome to graves champion spotlight, Graves is a Range , melee, tanky DPS, assassin, mage, tank, support jungler that excels at everything

Monstermushmush1 votes

Mostly a problem in higher elo, i guess.

A Bepi1 votes

Adc are the golden children of league. Yeah they received nerfs but after how long? Seasons? Expect graves to be disgusting all season long, I just ban him lol

AggressiveWolf1 votes

Graves, the champ you get punished for face tanking, that can face tank you [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Daddy Ants1 votes

https://clips.twitch.tv/AmusedMotionlessVelociraptorAliens

2/3 Graves deleting a 17/4 Vayne.

Graves seems totally balanced Riot.

/s

This isn't a low elo Vayne either.

Bears Dont Care1 votes

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https://clips.twitch.tv/AmusedMotionlessVelociraptorAliens

2/3 Graves deleting a 17/4 Vayne.

Graves seems totally balanced Riot.

/s

This isn't a low elo Vayne either.

28 minutes in. Both have 3 and a half items including boots.

Judging from the number of towers doen and levels ot appears jos team was winning and tower gol made up for the kill gold vayne had. Kda is not an accurate depiction of what should occur. Even ifnhe has only 2 kills and 3 assists, farming and tower gold ensures he can keep up in some way.

5050BS1 votes

Classic Riot trash designs.

T Captain T1 votes

Not just the dmg and health he has but that smoke screen that's packed with an unnecessary slow

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