I kind of wonder what Riot was trying to do with Gunblade

Jefftiffy·Oct 12, 2016·1 votes·452 views

It has 80 AP, 40 AD, a passive that gives you 15% healing on all damage, and a 250 damage active with 30% AP scaling (24 extra damage on itself) with a 40s CD. How could this item every be balanced with that active let alone the massive amount of damage it gives in stats. Anyone who has scaling on their abilities is always going to be broken as long as this item exists in this state.

I'm not talking OP. I'm just saying that the champs that abuse it will always be toxic and unbalanced.

It reminds me way too much of how has never been reworked to fix her inherent problem of how she synergizes so well with and .

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OrinneOct 12, 20161 votes

If Jax Kayle Skarner Akali Corki Evelynn Katarina are broken, it's not because of gunblade.

Also, lol that random stab at Irelia.

JefftiffyOct 12, 20161 votes

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If are broken, it's not because of gunblade.

Also, lol that random stab at Irelia.

The point is you can never have an AA champ that does spell damage as well as long as it exists. Because any champ that AAs is going to build it and have a item that essentially guarantees a kill every 40s. Katarina will almost never build it just because of how her kit works with AP. Corki honestly can't build that much AP post rework. Skarner can't build AP and still do his role. Gunblade needs to be made so that it no longer adds so much damage and encourages AA champs to rush it. It has such a powerful effect for its cost.

OrinneOct 12, 20161 votes

So does item 3152 (Which is 900 gold cheaper for essentially the same effect and is far more prevalent in the meta with more than 2 champions who regularly purchase it).

As is, gunblade's remained essentially unchanged since its creation and has had little effect on the game aside from low-tier players getting pubstomped by Jax/Akali. It's an expensive item that gives almost nothing but B-list values of two types of damage with an active that gives an extra boost of damage comparable with the likes of other more commonly used items. It really isn't that overbearing.

Also, I find it funny how you say "Anyone who has Jax scaling on their abilities" and then proceed to knock down every non-Jax champion who has said scalings. So they're broken because they have the scaling, and because gunblade exists, despite the fact that they don't build the item itself. That's quite the leap of logic.

JefftiffyOct 12, 20161 votes

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So does (Which is 900 gold cheaper for essentially the same effect and is far more prevalent in the meta with more than 2 champions who regularly purchase it).

As is, gunblade's remained essentially unchanged since its creation and has had little effect on the game aside from low-tier players getting pubstomped by Jax/Akali. It's an expensive item that gives almost nothing but B-list values of two types of damage with an active that gives an extra boost of damage comparable with the likes of other more commonly used items. It really isn't that overbearing.

Also, I find it funny how you say "Anyone who has scaling on their abilities" and then proceed to knock down every non-Jax champion who has said scalings. So they're broken because they have the scaling, and because gunblade exists, despite the fact that they don't build the item itself. That's quite the leap of logic.

Jax like scaling is essentially Jax Kayle Akali TwistedFate (i have seen it in some TF builds) Ezreal . It literally can make of break builds that these champs have. And the way it is now it favors burst on them rather than DPS. 80 AP on a hybrid item where most hybrid champs AA while getting burst from AP is just asking for problems while also giving them another AP scaling.

BakedLotionOct 12, 20161 votes

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If are broken, it's not because of gunblade.

Also, lol that random stab at Irelia.

Out of all those listed, a whopping total of 1 builds gunblade frequently.

OrinneOct 12, 20161 votes

Was mostly just grabbing any champion that has hybrid scaling, though my main point is that none of these champions who theoretically have decent synergy with the item get pushed over the edge do to building gunblade.

Akali is SO HOTOct 12, 20161 votes

Jax and Akali are the only two champions that build the item. Jax has about a 50% winrate and Akali has a whopping 47% winrate. The only other champions that could effectively build this item are Kayle, Eve, and Corki and even then it's still not that great of an item on them and is almost never bought on them either. Gunblade is nowhere near broken. If you want to look at broken items take a look at item 3152 item 3116