Zekes hairbringer is kinda useless because marksman don't need the crit anymore
I liked the old zekes way better
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Spaceman5pff24 votes20% AP and 50% crit?
Champion Skin5 votesWhat AP does Corki have in his build? 
?
General Esdeath 2 votes
Gesterr4 votesThat gives Mrpen not AP
General Esdeath 1 votesAP = more magic damage M. Pen = more magic damage
Checkmate atheist :^)
Abyssphere3 votesAP = more magic damage M. Pen = more magic damage
Checkmate atheist :^)
Yeah no. He said "AP", not "magic damage amps".
General Esdeath 1 votesMaybe Perhaps Possibly There's a chance
Sire Hippington1 voteszeke's increase AP by 20%, **not **magic damage. If you have 0 AP, it increases it by 0, so m-pen boots don't help here at all, and a sinlge ap item like voidstaff means he gains massive 16ap, thats like a single dorans ring, not directly much to speak off considering zeke's usually is finished mid-late game. Also, ap not always needs to increase magic damage, eve's E for example has a 1.0 ratio whilst dealing physical damage...
Spaceman5pff1 votesYes you are all right in some way.
Void staff is the best %pen item on corki.
Some AP is more than no AP
Deep Terror Nami14 votesIt gives 20% AP too. Once your ADC gets plenty of crit, bind someone else that can use the stats.
MunchCrunchLunch3 votesthe ap part is pretty good. but any adc gets 70+ crit and usually 100% so its nor worth
Sire Hippington1 votesyour adc's crit doesn't matter for what Deep Terror Nami means. Once your adc has more than 50% crit, just bind it to your mage or assasins. A talon with 50% more crit is damn scarry, so is a victor with 20% more ap, though it cerainly needs more coordination to be well used with them.
Another option would be telling your adc that you have zeke's and he can go for no-crit items while still getting the full crit.
It Hertz When IP2 votesWorks great on spammy mages, but burst ones might have more trouble reaching the 100 ct mark often enough.
Mandang06 votesAt what point in the build is this a problem? ADC's going to get 50% on 2 items and then usually go a lifesteal item (that has 0 crit). Games are ending early enough this season that I really don't think 4+ item considerations are very important.
AlwaysByMySide4 votesThe only ADCs getting above 50% crit that come to mind are the ones buying Essence Reaver.
Ones that don't, like Jinx, Twitch, or Cait, still benefit from it.
SH Azykan2 votes
is pretty common on jinx, 80% crit rate is ridiculously good with her aoe rockets. And runaans makes little explosions too O:
Searno1 votescan someone explain why jinx is starting to build runaans? I asked this question like a day ago but no real reply.
Leeerzeichen3 votesBecause runaans works with her aoe explosions from her q and the additional attacks can crit now
Sahn Uzal1 votesFor the same reason why a bunch of other ADC's are building it now; the item got buffed compared to pre-pre-season hurricane (before the preseason :P)
kile1471 votesBecause her rockets already gave her good multi-target damage in team fights and runaans compounds with that.
SpongebobIsLife1 votesjust realized, one wouldn't even think to build 6 offensive items on jinx season 5, but nowadays I almost never see a defense item like banshees or ga bought.
Sinlaire3 votesthey just buy steraks and call it a day. free health shield if you get bursted and 25% more damage for the duration of the team fight to supplement kill and sustain potential.
It's why it's getting nerfed. Steraks on ADCs has been abused very heavily in high elo the last handful of patches.
Secretlolz1 votesif that was the only reason then they would make it melee only
Sinlaire1 votesactually exactly the opposite. Rito pulled a Rito and said, "If we made the item melee only it would limit item diversity. we like the idea of ADC's building Steraks Gauge as an alternative offensive form of defence, but currently the power for the price is too great and is taking away too much of the intended weaknesses of ADC's. Which is their inherant lack of health, tankiness, and the ability to easily withstand and turn assassination attempts."
which essentially ment "we're pulling the counterplay card in that we like this ADC counterplay option and would rather nerf the item for everyone than remove it from a certain group (ranged champions)."
Sightless661 votesEven on Jinx, it's still usually better to go for BT + Merc's +LW, instead of picking up a third crit item, possibly with a sterrak's if the game calls for it. There's definitely tons of room to fit Zeke's Harbinger into that.
ahferroin71 votesTwitch and Cait I can agree with, but I somewhat regularly see people get 100% crit on Jinx with 
and one of 
or 
. Doing so with Essence Reaver means your rockets effectively cost no mana, and because of the 2 zeal items and decent AD, means you can still siege well.
Sightless661 votesI don't ever see people build ER on Jinx. She's heavily autoattack-based so CDR provides her less benefit than it does to other AD carries, and she doesn't really have mana problems as the game goes on anyway. I'd definitely put that as a very niche build.
Sire Hippington1 voteswell, nothing boosts your dps like crit+ad(if you already have the as items), and the only other ad+crit item would be a second IE. If you really aim at just maxing out your damage, that 100% crit built is the way to go.
Zenithir4 votesIf your ADC doesn't need it, put it on your midlaner.
20% AP is nothing to shake a stick at.
morris13 votesHe might need the crit chance too 
GuiltyGecko3 votesWell it does free up your carry from having to get a third crit item. Full builds tend to looking something like this without a zeke support:
then depnding on team comp, they get: 
A carry can forgo one of the crit items for something else if the support gets zeke's. You'll have 100% crit chance during a teamfight with an additional item, as opposed to 80% crit chance with the 3 crit items.
I usually just tell my ADC I plan on getting Zeke's so they don't have to get another crit item and they can get to other things faster.
Myrmiron3 votesI know someone who could use the "hairbringer" better :P http://timothywhite.com/sites/default/files/images/portfolio/Bruce-Willis.jpg
Eclipse13373 votesZeke's Hairbringer is for trolling them at the barber shop
Only Play Darius2 votes
WhatAGeinius13 votesWhat's the use in giving 100% crit chance to someone that should already have 100% crit chance?
Only Play Darius2 votesYou can build pure AD on him then once he gets paired he can get 100% crit
JVP153 votesIt takes one item, then you build full AD. IE is very good on Yasuo, so you want it on him anyways. Shiv might not directly AD, but it does a bit of magic damage and gives quite a lot of attack speed which lowers the CD on your Q anyways.
Hedgehog Hustler1 votesYeah, but then you have to get 100 stacks of Zeke's while Yasuo continues to be slow and lame in lane without Statikk Shiv.
Abyssphere1 votes[{quoted}](name=Jelly Mac,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WY1pAOdE,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2016-03-03T23:03:26.369+0000)
You can build pure AD on him then once he gets paired he can get 100% crit
Attack speed and crit are pretty much married stats at this stage, so unless you want to get no AS on Yas it's not really easy to build him without getting crit in there somewhere.
Unstoppable Monk1 votes
FastAsHeck1 votesbecause 20% ap duh
Goosetard2 votesCan champs with abilities that scale from crit chance take advantage of >100% crit? 
etc.?
EcchiOtakuTM2 votesNever Forget, Stark's Fervor </3
Dar Raksada1 votesNever Forget, Stark's Fervor </3
One of my favourites
Quavelix2 votesCrit should add multiplicatively, NOT additively.
I've always been surprised that it's not that way in League.
Xeynid3 votesSo... Critical strike chance... Should reduce your chance to not critically strike?
Doctor Jarvis3 votes...no? Its like how tenacity increases multiplicatively. Building MORE doesn't make it less, it just doesn't hard scale.
Xeynid1 votesTenacity reduces the duration of CC by whatever percentage you have.
The only way to make critical strike stack multiplicatively (And for that to actually reduce the total amount of crit) is to make all critical strike chance items reduce your chance of not critically striking by 100-(crit chance) in individual instances.
So 20% crit chance reduces your chance to not critically strike by 80%.
Which is backwards and silly.
1374343 votesIt is backwards and silly, but means the same thing. There are only two possible outcomes- you crit on attack or you don't. If you have 20% crit chance you have a 20% chance of critting...and a 80% chance of not critting and dealing normal damage (barring the fact the critting works on a modified RNG). Everytime you purchase more crit you are reducing your non-crit % chance.
Stacking 2 20% crit items additively = total crit chance of 40% [20 +20] Stacking 2 20% crit items multiplicatively = total crit chance of 36% [1- (0.8*0.8)]
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