this might sound weird but... could we revert taric?

rubberduckie666··4 votes·1,108 views

hear me out for a second here, i dont mean revert him entirely i just mean his kit (though a traditional taric skin would be cool where you had the pizza feet and old VO)

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as taric is right now hes lackluster to play not to mention frustrating and punishing. lets explore that and compare it to the past and why i feel this way.

passive : its basically the same in both version's no real point in going over it.

Q: as tarics q is right now its actual garbage. the mana cost is very high and the heal given is pathetically low. even at max charges the heal simply is not worth it.

while tarics old Q was admittedly not that good either it was still outright better as a single target heal and if used on himself gave a 40% flat bonus to the heal and scailings%. the mana cost was MUCH more reasonable for the heal and actually scailed better.

W : while the new shield could be considered more "support orientated" i would outright say it is worse than his old W.

his old W gave not only himself but everyone on his team(near him) the bonus armour but gave him a bit of even MORE extra armour when it was off cooldown. not to mention when it was used it damaged the enemies around him while also shredding some of their Armour.

E : while the new stun is arguably better than the old one because it does more damage while also being able to stun an entire team rather than 1 while only having a slightly shorter stun i say its the worse of the 2. its frustrating to use on account of it being heavily telegraphed and easily avoided due to the insane mobility most characters have nowadays not to mention getting cockblocked by your own minions forcing you to path weird also having to rely on a teammate to land YOUR skillshot is frustrating in of itself.

his old single target stun may have done less damage and traveled slowly but it could not miss making it perfect for his role as a bodyguard while also making you have to actively think about who youre gona use it on... will you use it on the guy jumping your carry? maybe youll use it on their carry? maybe their support so they cant help anyone?

R/ULT : as tarics ult is right now its basically impossible to balance and where his entire kits power budget has gone into. potentially making your entire team immune to damage is insanely strong however as the game state is right now you cant use it reactivity... because of the 2.5 second channel time its not going to save anyone that isnt already a massive tank. you have to KNOW the damage is coming before it even happens because your squishys will explode instantly and more often than not whoever bursts them is just gona wait till your ult expires before going in.

tarics old ult used to do some damage in an aoe and give himself a bunch of ad and ap while giving his team half the stats he got.


(TLDR) while old taric was a very easy to play champion his kit was effectively fail proof and as a result considerably less frustrating to play . while he wasnt the greatest healer or cc bot he was one of the best bodyguards on account of making his entire team stronger while he protected his carry and beat the living shit out of whoever dared to come near his precious gem.

also his old kit let him solo lane, bring that back

11 Comments

Saezio3 votes

Nah he is nice now. He can heal soooooo much just with one tear. The old one was just very badly designed. And if you think his current ult 2.5 sec delay is too much because fights last too little imagine his old ult with the stats? It would just be useless because the extra ad/ap would never be noticed in these short teamfights

SaltyBoiMalum2 votes

Taric doesnt need a rework

rubberduckie6661 votes

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Taric doesnt need a rework

i said a revert not a rework???

chipndip11 votes

Nor that

ZaneShadow2 votes

Taric main here, please don’t. I love this Taric and his gameplay. The ability to completely win a team fight with positioning and smart planning feels so good. I do have some issues with his kit, but that’s more me being bad, and I feel like they’ll be more enjoyable once I get better with him.

I will say, If the can ever buff Taric top I’d love them forever, but that’s a bit besides the point of kit design__

ZephyrDrake1 votes

Yet Taric's Q is essentially a much better Soraka W as long as you keep autoing things. His W being the way it is, it's so much better than a boring "I give everyone around me armor or enemies around me an armor debuff". His E was just dumb, slow moving projectile that is a short ranged, point and click stun that somehow dealt more damage the farther away the enemy was. Then there was his ult... the most underwhelming ult ever since its just "allies around me get an offence boost... I also deal a bit of damage". Old Taric was so dull and boring to play. There was no skill expression, there was no real "yeah I did that!" type of moment.

Seems to me you don't like that you require some amount of skill in order to do well with Taric

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

It was very fun legit permastunning people with toplane Taric, but there isn't any reason for him to be reverted. Almost nobody played the pre-rework Taric and his kit was very outdated.

Shobek1 votes

GEMS, GEMS ARE TRULY OUTRAGEOUS. THEY ARE TRULY TRULY TRULY, OUTRAGEOUS!

Pre Rework Taric was one of my favorite champions. I loved him and I had more fun playing him than every other champion in game besides Pre Rework Akali.

They should split this current Taric into a new champion and bring back the original.

Reworks have been a total cancer for this game.

Riot games is destroying its own soul piece by piece every time that they rework a champion. Quite a shame.

Paroe1 votes

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GEMS, GEMS ARE TRULY OUTRAGEOUS. THEY ARE TRULY TRULY TRULY, OUTRAGEOUS!

Pre Rework Taric was one of my favorite champions. I loved him and I had more fun playing him than every other champion in game besides Pre Rework Akali.

They should split this current Taric into a new champion and bring back the original.

Reworks have been a total cancer for this game.

Riot games is destroying its own soul piece by piece every time that they rework a champion. Quite a shame.

To be fair, the taric relaunch at the very least acknowledged the previous version, and acted as an evolution for the character. Its highly plausible to bring Taric back - or at the very least, a masked gem-knight with a similar kit to the old taric.

Perhaps the powers that oppose targon reassembled the aspect of douche's armor, and instilled life wrought from the demons that haunted its previous owner... Tbh id LOVE to see tarics old kit twisted into some sort of juggernaut;

Bloodstone hammer; After using an ability, champions next basic attack deals 50% base AD+0.25AD+25% armor as magic damage and reduces his cooldowns by 2 seconds

Bloodstone siphon; Champion seeds the ground around him with bloodstones, consuming 10% of his current HP to deal that much damage over 5 seconds in a 400unit area around him. Heals for 10/20/30/40/50+0.1AD per enemy hit per second. Healing from enemy champions is doubled.

Shatter/sunder Champion passively gains 15% of his armor as base armor, this bonus is increased to 16/17/18/19/20% while off cooldown. Shatter: Champions next basic attack deals 1.0/1.2/1.3/1.4/1.5 bonus armor as magic damage and marks the enemy hit. For 5 seconds after use, sunder may be casted. Sunder: Champions next basic attack reduces enemy base armor by 10/15/20/25/30+1 per 10 bonus AD and slows them by 20%+1% per 100 bonus HP.

Dazzle: Champion fires a sharpened bloodstone at an enemy champion dealing 40/80/120/160/200+0.3AD as physical damage and stunning them for 1/1.25/1.5/1.75/2 seconds. The stun duration and damage increase by 10% per 100 units traveled, up to 100%.

Dusk: Champion smashes his hammer against the ground, creating a bloodstone siphon 800 units in size and lasts 10 seconds. While in the zone champion gains 25/30/35+10 per 100 bonus armor and 1 per 100 bonus HP, additionally champions cooldowns are reduced by 2 whenever an enemy is hit with a basic attack. Allies within the area are healed for 50% of the amount and gain 10/15/20+0.25AD.

Shobek1 votes

As long as he had the same abilities as the old Taric and they had the cool build interactions that they once had i really don't care.

Man. I used to play AP Taric with DFG back in the day.

DFG - Stun - R - Shatter - Dead

Then the armor version was amazing vs ad enemy teams and he was manly as f. I used to solo ad carries all the time. It was so f'n fun.

Miss that.

meowwow71 votes

his q is an aoe heal which makes it ideal to try to hit everybody near you with it. his w is actually great when combined with guardian due to how big the shield can get, but the main focus i see on his w is the ally casting point with his skills. his e is alot better than before because now i don't have to worry about Yasuo or Braum blocking it, and pairing this up with his w against a pick heavy support tends to make great counter engages. his ult is an aoe invulnerability that doesn't affect enemies either, and still only cost 100 mana at all ranks

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