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One buff to help Evelynn

Kloqdq·10/18/2017, 3:42:28 PM·7 votes·1,000 views

Now I know you want to have counter play on Evelynn Riot but I just want to throw this buff out there.

Make it so Evelynn's W doesn't reveal her position. When she is in stealth she isn't revealed but from level 1 to 6, you are forced to be reveal. Now personally, I feel this is way too punishing for Evelynn as she is already hard countered by a lot things in and outside of her kit. I understand it suppose to give players some chance to counter it and give her choices but the choice feels binary.

Not only that but it's a pretty big issue for early game Evelynn ganking. She already has to wait 2.5 seconds for the charm while also having to auto or land Q. The fact she gets revealed as well is just making her early ganking power stupidly bad. I mean 2.5 seconds for the hard CC is enough of a heads up in my mind that this one aspect of her kit shouldn't even exist.

TL;DR - Remove the reveal on Evelynn's W. Giving away her position makes her ganking power way weaker than it should be.

31 Comments

Cyrosi10/18/2017, 4:11:43 PM3 votes

I think I'd rather them keep the reveal but up her burst potential. Then you can see her coming and counterplay, but Ev might actually be able to kill people reliably. There's also the issue that I can't tell how much of Evelynn's lackluster-ness is because she needs improvements and how much is because she's new and people are still figuring out how to play her. I've seen people do really well on her, but most of the time people are just average so far, with a few people who clearly don't know what they're doing sprinkled in.

But honestly, I feel like she's sort of a weird character right now. She's really squishy, but doesn't deal that much damage. I guess that's to make up for her invisibility, but if that's the case I sort of feel like Twitch does it better. Is Twitch jungle a thing?

Zerdun10/18/2017, 7:24:37 PM3 votes

I don't see current eve's issue being her damage TBH. I found the most problematic parts of her kit being that she walks about as fast as a sloth and that its absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to get her full duration cc off if your priority target has ANYONE with a third of a brain near them (especially during team fight phase where eve is currently literally unable to help except by split pushing or playing cleanup because she explodes so easily). By being unable to land the full duration W as well as how hard it is to successfully land a full Q outside of melee range because body blocking is such a simple thing she loses the bulk of her damage.

Dexamoru10/19/2017, 2:44:09 AM3 votes

I don't even know why are people still talking and complaining about Evelyn. Riot never like this champion. Every time they reworked her she got worse and worse. They gave someone they wanted to be an assassin a move that mechanically makes no sense on an assassin, 'hey, im going to attack you in 2.5 seconds!'. They gave them a stealth which detection range is so huge if your in the lane with the target they can see you... she is the only assassin without a movement ability. (No, her ulti doesn't count. If she uses it to close the gap she can't kill no one.)

Let's just face it guys. Rito knew exactly what they were doing. Trolling Evelyn mains. Give it about 6 months. Pick Evelyn in ranked matches will get you banned.

Shuyin17810/18/2017, 6:31:40 PM2 votes

The problem with your argument, you should be in position and ready to pounce the moment the charm finishes charging anyways. If anything just lower the wait time, but the reveal is a non-issue on someone that isn't a noob.

Sire Hippington10/18/2017, 7:19:29 PM1 votes

agree, the W buff is already a telltale that she's comeing for you, you don't need to know from where on top of that, it kinda kills the point of beeing stealth.

Drugoth10/19/2017, 4:49:32 AM1 votes

How about instead of removing the reveal aspect, they make it so the maturation of the curse is reduced with skill level up, giving the enemy less time to react pre-emptively against the ambush.

Something like 2.5 seconds at level 1 and 0.1 or .25 seconds gets taken off each level up maybe?

Xurreal10/19/2017, 12:21:07 AM1 votes

It just needs tuning. Scaled down per rank by .1 second.

But the move is such a nice cincher versus a great deal of functions if you are able to force and predict. Zhonyas and interfering with Yasuo's Second Q for Instance.

TruelyTrueTrueth10/20/2017, 3:56:54 AM1 votes

Reworked Evelynn does not lack damage she just lacks utility and i've played a quite a few games of evelynn so im sure on that especially now that a whole lot of champions in league are highly mobile or mobile enough that they can escape a sticky situation it is hard to catch up with your target because she has no real gap closer (and don't say her E please you should already know why) if she uses her ult as a gap closer well now she has lost a lot of her damage but more importantly, she has no escape now assuming the enemy team is near

every time i play eve i find myself having problems with her charm

her charm takes a bit a too long to charge up her charm is the hardest thing to hit, there's almost no point of her having a charm it takes 2.5 seconds and thats a whole lot of time for the enemy to react by the time the charm is ready the enemy is already all the way at their tower or behind a whole bunch of minions or already made it to there teammates and when that happens the only way to hit the charm is if you walk right up to the enemy and E or waste your first active on Q and lose the bonus damage and use the automatic targeting Q thing to hit the charm (sometimes i just place the w on an enemy just to scare them away for a bit so they dont get too close to me even when i know i cant do anything to them; but yet they run away)

another issue with her W is that every point you put into it also increases your W range... though i dont mind it as much, cant lie its kind of useless your already invisble playing eve you can stand right next to them outside of stealth range waiting for the charm; it doesnt matter if you use her w from a far they're never gonna know putting points into W is only good for jungle clears but still thats not even that great

what i do think that could really really help eve is if the charm took less time to charge up (like maybe 1 second or 1.5 seconds) or give eve high ms boost in stealth form (she's really missing that movespeed buff; you can barely feel it when you use your e too) or increase the range on the first active on her Q even her empowered e could maybe use a little bit of range when empowered so ya know the dash is more noticeable; plus more reliable gap closer. evelynn charm takes more skill, thinking, and risk to land compared to other charms; so i think to reward someone when it does land is to make it so the charm lasts longer like ahri charm last longer or have it do a small amount of damage when landed or make it so the enemy is slowed even when out of charm for like a second

one of those things could really help eve imo; would you agree? im not trying to say evelynn is a bad champion entirely because she isn't if she just gets a minor buff to her charm or utility (ms, range, gap closer, etc), then it could really drastically change her from being, the champion that most other champions do her job better, to being Evelynn the widow maker but riot wont care because its their game they do what they want

Bears Dont Care10/18/2017, 4:44:06 PM1 votes

It reveals? I thought she remained camo after using it. Personally, I think her charm needs to be reduced in preparation time to 2 seconds or to 1 second as you rank it. Alternatively give her some MS connected to said W

JoeMG10/18/2017, 5:17:05 PM1 votes

IMO the reveal is fine. She just needs a more reliable way to get to her target. That way there's still room for counterplay without leaving Eve totally useless in certain scenarios.