My only issue with a lot new/reworked champions is that theres almost nothing they can't do.

AstroFerrari ··2 votes·1,023 views

Sylas - Very good heal, CC, Burst, Mobility, Manageable cooldowns and resource is also easy to manage.

Irelia - Her having mana almost doesn't even matter, she may as well be resourceless. Very good conditional mobility, very good CC, AOE auto-disabling slow, access to burst whilst still being tanky and having good attack speed for dueling and beating out ADCs.

Akali - True stealth, burst, good healing once you get your hands on item 3146 . I will say she is kind of difficult to play and master though. Resource is very, very easy to manage.

Pyke - Extremely good cc, very good healing in lane, re-settable execute. It's very difficult to keep a good Pyke player down or exploit any weaknesses.

Camille (not as new, I know) - passive shield that's invaluable in lane (when she was still mainly played top), itemization allowing for massive true damage burst, incredible gap closer that let's her stun you from half a screen away, and an ult that completely locks a target for her to take out (her ult is probably the most reasonable part of her kit).

I think ALL of these champions would be ok to play against if you just took away 2 of the things they do well. If I told you a couple of seasons ago that these things would be in the game, you guys would throw me in the looney bin.

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chipndip12 votes

Today I learned that a stun that doesn't even last a second long is "very good cc". The issue I have with forum criers is that they don't even lay a decent foundation for discussion in the first place.

Like, other divers have more influential cc than Irelia does, but you want to list off "very good cc" so you can try to pad your thread since no one on here's gonna actually stop for a second and say "Wait...this is blatant hyperbole". It's so bloody dishonest, and that's only one example.

AstroFerrari 1 votes

Looking at the Diver champion category, I'm gonna assume you mean either Kayn or Warwick when it comes to having more influential cc. The stun isn't my biggest issue with Irelia, there's just so much that she can do well in the right hands. Playing some champions into her or the ones mentioned in this post unless their also blantantly op feels like you're just handicapping yourself. But that's just my opinion. No need for personal attacks.

chipndip11 votes

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Looking at the Diver champion category, I'm gonna assume you mean either Kayn or Warwick when it comes to having more influential cc.

MonkeyKing : AOE knock up ult that lasts longer and isn't reduced by tenacity.

LeeSin : Knock back ult that knocks up anyone the first target runs into...which lasts longer.

Warwick : A suppression that lasts longer.

Urgot : An aoe fear that lasts longer.

The stun isn't my biggest issue with Irelia, there's just so much that she can do well in the right hands.

So you're supposed to NOT be able to accomplish things with a champ you've put time into? You should focus less on when Irelia wins and focus more on how she does overall if you want a real solution to your problem. Mentality is important.

Playing some champions into her or the ones mentioned in this post unless their also blantantly op feels like you're just handicapping yourself. But that's just my opinion. No need for personal attacks.

There is no personal attacks here. The last part was a commentary on the boards mentality. People post these overstatements about champion strengths, trim the weaknesses, and perpetuate this constant fear-mongering over certain champions and rake in up votes.

Like, in a list like this, where's AZIR? Oh right, he's not popular so you forgot.

Aight, where's Janna? Janna's defensive options are notoriously overloaded. Same thing. They aren't front seat on the hate train so we just disregard that they exist.

Meanwhile Akali's here...somehow. Think on it for just a moment: If Akali's Obscurity was removed, how much do you think you'd even gain from the change, versus how much you'd lose in compensation buffs back into Akali? The turret dive scenario isn't the usual for the champ, and just about any assassin dives better than her anyway, but she's here because...she does "everything"? More like we're just fear-mongering some more.

Once again: It's not a personal attack. If you didn't make this post, the next person would have like an hours or so from now, anyway. It's just a massive downer mentality to have and it just stays on these boards constantly.

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