I like how Graves has been the best jungler for most of the season

Rock MD·Sep 2, 2018·29 votes·6,459 views

And Sej is still receiving nerfs before he is.

C'mon the only people that even play Sej anymore are TSM and they metaslave so hard they can't change champions until their fans get pissed, and even then they still got smashed by a Graves today.

I'm getting really sick of seeing this champion and being unable to fight him since he always ends up with a 1-2 level advantage and Red Smite + his build makes him unburstable at all stages of the game.

25 Comments

Kanzaki RankoSep 2, 20187 votes

sejuani too op dude

same with yorick

they rule the elos that rioters play in

Daddy AntsSep 2, 20185 votes

Sejuani is being nerfed because she's a stellar pick in pro play.

There's plenty of SoloQ cancer that needs nerfing but isn't getting nerfed.

Akali Draven DrMundo Evelynn Graves Jhin Jax Kaisa Nami MissFortune Nocturne Yasuo Zed

IllabetheSep 3, 20181 votes

She's not really that stellar. Most of Pro play knows how her passive works. Her only pro play aspect is Ulting an entire team.

Daddy AntsSep 3, 20181 votes

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She's not really that stellar. Most of Pro play knows how her passive works. Her only pro play aspect is Ulting an entire team.

She can't stun an entire team with her R anymore as far as I'm aware.

I believe the stun is single target.

InfernapeSep 3, 20182 votes

The stun is single target but the slow is massive. It's a 30% slow at first followed by an 80% slow when the zone explodes.

Quality ContentSep 3, 20183 votes

If I see another Graves I might go insane. Jungle diversity sucks right now.

Rock MDSep 3, 20181 votes

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If I see another Graves I might go insane. Jungle diversity sucks right now.

Nah man a jungle main just told me that the jungle is very diverse right now so it's gotta be true, despite the fact Lee and Graves both have presence in 30% of all games.

KhristophorosSep 2, 20182 votes

https://puu.sh/Bon7T/968a82f5e3.png

Probably has to do with the fact that he has a fraction of the games played so they see him as less of a problem with regards to meta diversity.

But you're right he's overpowered and should be nerfed.

edit: Not sarcasm

KrullySep 2, 20181 votes

Ive seen plenty more graves/rengar/kha in my games then sej

HaIlMonitorSep 2, 20181 votes

EU meta must be hardcore. I almost never see carries except half ass lee sins that suck lol.

KhristophorosSep 2, 20181 votes

those are numbers from LCS

anyway I do think graves needs a nerf. I was trying to say from Riot's perspective Sej appears to be a bigger issue though.

Add92Sep 2, 20182 votes

I always ban graves not because he is op ( i think he is ) , but just because I am tired to see him 99% of the time in my games if open .

His E armor stacking should get nerfed massively .

Fear the KaynSep 3, 20182 votes

The problem with tank junglers is when they are strong, they are STRONGGGGGGGGGGGGG. Graves is strong, but he still countered by some champions and can be dealt with fairly well. His ganks aren't insane, either.

LTK KoRoSep 4, 20181 votes

It's more like, when tank junglers are strong, they can't be bullied out of their jungle, and they'll outscale out-utility you anyway. Also, there's no risk in playing strong tank jungler. When you're playing Camille, Kha or Rengar jungle, you fuck up, you're probably never coming back. But Zac and Seju are more than useful without much gold.

IllabetheSep 3, 20181 votes

I still think Pyke is the best jungler. Graves and the rest can get shut down. Pyke recovers.

Rock MDSep 3, 20184 votes

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I still think Pyke is the best jungler. Graves and the rest can get shut down. Pyke recovers.

Stop trolling

IllabetheSep 3, 20181 votes

Not trolling. I have a provable history.

Biscuit BiteSep 3, 20181 votes

That's because Graves is a white male, and he's privileged.

Sharpest glassesSep 3, 20181 votes

I like how Camille has been the best top for most of the season

Rock MDSep 3, 20181 votes

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I like how Camille has been the best top for most of the season

Don't you feel outplayed?

Sharpest glassesSep 3, 20181 votes

I would if it wasn't for her R and last buff of her passive.

LTK KoRoSep 4, 20182 votes

It's funny because she's also one of the best junglers at once. I love Camille kit and im playing her very often, but sadly she shows how many stuff in kit melee fighters need to succeed.

Sharpest glassesSep 4, 20181 votes

I think she's fair tho. If we put balance aside, the only issue is her R.

LTK KoRoSep 4, 20181 votes

Yeah she's pretty fine now. Her R is manageable on low ranks tbh, on rank 3 it's pretty hard to play against.

Wacky9Sep 3, 20181 votes

Shyvana has secretly been broken all season because no one tries to go early dragon anymore. You can get 4 dragons with her if you play right. Just afk farm until 4, take dragon and then farm until 6 and gank someone.