that isn't how you balance, guys...

4nth0l0gy·2/25/2015, 11:29:45 AM·5 votes·542 views

The AD on item 3707 is now reduced by 5, from 45 to 40.

I'm sorry to inform you Riot, but that changes literally nothing. It is still the best jungle item, due to both its build path (longswords are pennies compared to item 1052/item 3108 and item 1028/item 3067 (RIP item 1042/item 3710)), and gives better clears for approximately the same amount of combat stats.

RIOT: "So you're saying we should increase the cost of longswords to-"

No. It's not that longswords is broken,

RIOT: "But it's too good, it's crowding out other Options-"

No, it's only doing that in the jungle.

RIOT: "So by increasing it's cost, we can allow for more jungle diversity, right CC Shepherd"

Holy shit shut up for ten seconds. Longsword IS NOT EXCLUSIVE TO THE JUNGLE. Nerfing it does not solve the problem of jungle balance exclusively, and probably ruins balance for other lanes. I spell this out only because it seems like the kind of moronic "fairness" your balance team would induce.

Also: increasing the cost of good jungle items does not allow diversity, it forces it.

Look. Jungle is notoriously gold-starved. it's also notorious for having to make due with shitty, generic builds. We don't get a choice between item 3001item 3089 item 3100 item 3157, we get one ball-of-stats item with CDR and meager damage, and then we build tank.

So stop fucking nerfing jungle items. They already suck. They're the first item you replace in a 50-minute game unless smite is still relevant (thanks for forcing that diversity by the way). we don't need the good ones to suck more, we need the bad ones to suck less. So please give item 3709 extra damage back against camps hitting the champion, and make item 3708 have some serious mana regen. It's that simple.

Also, stop nerfing junglers. JarvanIV, for example, is a great jungler right now. Don't make him worse for surviving and being effective, make other junglers as strong as him. Jungle is not a strong role right now. You've crushed it too hard for that. Stop whipping us, we're already so thoroughly lashed we bleed all over the jungle floor. You've done nothing but make us hurt: your camps deal more damage this season, your expensive machete forces us into it and allows us fewer potions, our sustain is garbage compared to the S4 jungle items. We are the dirt. You can hit us as much as you like but we can't really get much lower.

Thanks for reading, I guess. Please do something with this information.

4 Comments

B3ER2/25/2015, 11:35:53 AM1 votes

The person in charge of the jungle changes is Riot Fearless. It is time he is held accountable. Riot needs to put a fucking leash on their designers.

4nth0l0gy2/25/2015, 12:15:02 PM1 votes

Seriously, do you know how much it sucks to be a jungle main right now riot? not only is it the most difficult role to understand, especially now that you've complicated it with smite buffs and passives all over your items; it also just feels unrewarding. I can't carry from the jungle with anything short of 5 kills on RekSai, and even then I can lose very easily, because early dragons mean so little, and I fall off hard late game. At least we used to get some scaling with spectral wraith and ancient golem.

I was really excited for the S5 changes when I heard about them. But you changed nothing significant about balance or diversity, you only changed the menial tasks of the role. I would pay you to revert the changes back to S4.