This is not a Mage Nerf

Malfectious··3 votes·779 views

This is the precursor to strong burst mages.

If they take away the unlimited regen, they can bring back the strong burst.

The best way to get rid of an overpowered ADC is to kill him from a safe distance.

Wont it be nice to delete an ADC or an Assassin with 1 rotation again.

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Step Sis Lux3 votes

How taking away regen gonna bring back burst?

Malfectious1 votes

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How taking away regen gonna bring back burst?

If you remove the ability to spam spells, you can make your spells stronger.

Step Sis Lux1 votes

lol maybe im retareded but i dont understand XD

rtbf2216514121 votes

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If you remove the ability to spam spells, you can make your spells stronger.

Assuming the balance team knew how to add damage to mages after gutting their resource to access damage. They should have done it in one patch. Not go:

"Hey ADC's are dominating....

Sounds like mid/support are the problem so nerf them first."

The Archive2 votes

Expecting follow-up that isn't in the initial changes, nor even mentioned in them, is setting oneself up for disappointment.

Riot is often really bad at follow-up.

Malfectious1 votes

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Expecting follow-up that isn't in the initial changes, nor even mentioned in them, is setting oneself up for disappointment.

Riot is often really bad at follow-up.

I am okay with disappointment. It just seems to follow the pattern. RIOT likes trade offs, they tend to give something back for everything they take away.

Dark Nephthys2 votes

If mages do get stronger then I'm fine with that trade off, and I'll even agree to possibly reducing the CDR as well if needed. Since they did lower down AP values on most AP items and to compensate it, gave CDR and Mana on them...it's only fair to start raising more AP values for losing that mana. Rod of Ages are already getting buffed as well by 20 AP so it's a start.

At the same time though...We still need to see what changes they have planned for bot lane. If ADCs and their items get nothing but very small nerfs but large buffs that overall makes them even stronger than they are now...then that is going to start a huge riot in the community.

makkii1 votes

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This is the precursor to strong burst mages.

If they take away the unlimited regen, they can bring back the strong burst.

The best way to get rid of an overpowered ADC is to kill him from a safe distance.

Wont it be nice to delete an ADC or an Assassin with 1 rotation again.

I mean I like the fact that they are nerfing mana regen, but mages already burst harder than ever, as gragas with Ludens and flat 30 mpen I can one shot anything that’s not a tank or bruiser already, it’s the same with a lot of champions like Ahri, Annie etc.

The problem is that adc’s burst is just as hard, which makes no sense considering they are supposed to do sustained damage.

But tbh I’m opposed to increasing damage on mages or anyone for that matter considering it’s already league of one shot.

SwiftKitten881 votes

strong burst? we already HAVE strong burst, in fact there isnt a champioin in the game that doesnt have "strong burst" Janna has strong burst for christs sake.

we need LOWER DAMAGE. NOT STRONGER BURST.

what what does riot do? they nerf the only class in the game that has has theat "high damage" based around cooldowns and skillshot,

where as adc dont need to work arund cooldowns skillshots or mana costs and yet somehow deal even MORE damage

Malfectious1 votes

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strong burst? we already HAVE strong burst, in fact there isnt a champioin in the game that doesnt have "strong burst" Janna has strong burst for christs sake.

we need LOWER DAMAGE. NOT STRONGER BURST.

what what does riot do? they nerf the only class in the game that has has theat "high damage" based around cooldowns and skillshot,

where as adc dont need to work arund cooldowns skillshots or mana costs and yet somehow deal even MORE damage

The trend is and has been everyone is going to be OP. That seems to be where we are going to find balance. Most burst mages can delete an out of position ADC or a weak Assasin. But, they haven't been scary for a while. If they cap the damage output with mana regen, I think a fed Annie should stand a chance to burst a 75% health Olaf even if he has a MR item.

SwiftKitten882 votes

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The trend is and has been everyone is going to be OP. That seems to be where we are going to find balance.

i think i have heard that somewhere before..

oh right

https://youtu.be/fmSO2cz2ozQ

Malfectious1 votes

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i think i have heard that somewhere before..

oh right

https://youtu.be/fmSO2cz2ozQ

+1 everybody gets to be a super!

PhearBunny1 votes

Strong burst mages? Brand already kills me instantly with nothing but a gp5 item.

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