Vayne is the least cancerous ADC, and that's why we nerfed armor. Obviously thornmail is the cancerous one here, and when you need to counter Vayne just pick Mordekaiser ADC.
How retarded does this sound? Riot this is what you sound like in my perspective.
Julius Evola2 votesI think this is gonna need some clarification. I have never seen Mordekaiser ADC and I am not sure if the armor nerfs were really targeting Vayne. Thornmail is also NOT the highest winrate armor item. @Lolking.net you can check the winrates of items by ELO. Randouins and Frozen Heart were much higher winrates than thornmail, last time I checked.
LegacyDAP1 votesI got one word, 3 numbers and a fucking dot.
Patch 5.16
They're nerfing thornmail and other armor items. Mordekaiser is being forced into bot lane. Vayne still hasn't been touched. Sated is also left untouched. Fiddlesticks left behind in the dust. The same top laners and ADC's still continue to dominate the meta. Cinderhulk nerf. Like what the fuck is even going on anymore? It's like you took all of the weaknesses of the current meta champs, and nerfed them for no reason.
Julius Evola2 votesOmg, this is aweful. They already buffed AP items considerably. AP has the highest winrates in the game and the most itemization options. They can also get more damage out of runes due to Reds being able to be used for MAGIC PEN. When you cannot get ARMOR PEN on Blues. . . At the pro level this game is already 4 APs and a Vayne META. God, this is aweful game design.
Julius Evola2 votesNot to mention, the lack of MR items has been relevant for MORE than a year.
LegacyDAP1 votesThey're buffing MR too you know. Honestly what AP's do you see in LCS that are not assassin's. Viktor, Rumble, Ryze, Annie, Gragas, and thank god they nerfed Runeglaive, but Ez was there too. That's all I've seen that's AP not engage or assassin. Most AP mages are bad atm. Kass, Veigar, etc. It's mostly tanks and ADC hyper carries/Junglers for now, with the engaging support.
Honestly if that's sarcasm I can't read it.
Jamaree2 votesWell with how easy you make it sound, why not just make your own game?
LegacyDAP1 votesRight, I'm obviously a game developer.
That's like telling a movie critic to make your own movie. Makes no sense.
I don't think it's easy to make the game, but there is some pretty obvious bull shit flying over Riot's head, or that they're just letting it sit there and pile up until we have multiple problems to take care of.
Jamaree2 votesRight, I'm obviously a game developer.
That's like telling a movie critic to make your own movie. Makes no sense.
I don't think it's easy to make the game, but there is some pretty obvious bull shit flying over Riot's head, or that they're just letting it sit there and pile up until we have multiple problems to take care of.
Honestly, I don't understand half of Riot's moves, but I'm not going to act like I just know better, or would or know some magic way to fix things. Nor am I gonna suggest nerfs and buffs of things without looking at everything, and using non true statements to try to push my point across.
LegacyDAP1 votesSo you think Riot just hasn't noticed the community getting upset about a lot of changes recently? Non-true statements where?
If you don't know better or don't know what should be buffed and changed then why are you here saying my opinion is false about these god awful changes that I personally think Riot has done wrong.
Jamaree1 votesSo you think Riot just hasn't noticed the community getting upset about a lot of changes recently? Non-true statements where?
The one about thornmail. I don't like being kited by ADCs as much as the next guy, but there isn't really anything enjoyable about being outDPSed while building full damage to a guy who has gromp, plus thornmail, plus cinderhulk isn't enjoyable, and thornmail isn't just a pain to ADCs either. Vayne isn't even a problem, she is annoying when ahead, but with champions like Vi, Sej, and Maokai, she isn't a threat because she get locked down and popped.
LegacyDAP1 votesYeah. Most carries do so the whole team doesn't get 1v5'd. The problem is they're nerfing cinderhulk, they're nerfing thornmail, and they're nerfing armor. Even if the carry gets locked there is so many items to prevent it. Mikael's, Banshee's, Scimitar. All of our counters against them are getting nerfed, and we can't do much after that.
Posui Gart2 votesSo armor nerf is indirect Vayne nerf, because her true damage ignores armor, so other ADC's are buffed more than Vayne
LegacyDAP1 votesShe's still an ADC. Her autos still do non-true damage. Assassin's and ADC's will prosper for the rest of the season guarantee it.
Posui Gart1 votesI really hope so, an ADC meta is something I didn't see for a year I am in LoL
LegacyDAP1 votesWhen? I remember them since I started playing 3 years ago.
Immortal Strife1 votesAdcs are at a weaker state then they have been at any point over the last two years, the tank meta is only just now falling off in favor of poke and bruiser supports, and you are complaining about Vayne and assassins. I don't think you have a clue about what's actually strong in the meta and should leave the balancing to Riot.
LegacyDAP1 votesADC's Bad? They bursted squishies and tanks. Let's be honest here I never claimed I should work for Riot, but this shit is getting outrageously bull shit, and hopefully you'll come to see that soon too. I never said anything about assassin's. Until just recently
Immortal Strife1 votesBesides Vayne which ADCs are actually good or OP? Siver gets picked just for engage, Trist to take towers and Corki for a mid game power spike, Kalista for dragon control, and Kog Maw for late game damage, all of which see tons of pro play but hardly get picked in solo Que. All the above have clear weaknesses and strengths which is what balance is. I'm sorry Vayne is ruining you day but she and ADCs in general are far from OP.
LegacyDAP1 votesComp play isn't everything. Of course it is in LCS, but in solo q Vayne is just stupid. Nobody has played Corki or Kog'Maw in the longest time. If you really want late game dmg you pick Trist. Kalista is also picked because of her retarded early damage, and her lane harassment, and how she's completely stronger than Twitch.