i think veigar was buffed not nerfed

Rustling Bush··4 votes·311 views

the bolded is the td'lr

don't take me for a veigar expert (i have played him from time to time) or anything

when i saw how they made heard from other how to they planned on nerfing him and i believed it at face value, but then checking to patch notes i saw the error of my ways since those guys werent telling us about the compensate buffs. so i'll try my best to break down my reasoning but ofc this is all just in theory

Q - Baleful Strike NEWSKILLFUL STRIKE: Baleful Strike is now a skillshot that passes through the first target hit and stops on the second target hit RANGE: 650 ⇒ 850 COOLDOWN8/7/6/5/4 seconds ⇒ 7/6.5/6/5.5/5 seconds

yeah, baleful strike is now a skill shot, but its range has increased by 200. additionally the skillshot passes through the target and hits the next target (kind of like Lux ), from what i can tell it doesn't seem to have any diminishing effects, with a little bit of ap you can be stacking passive twice as fast which sounds amazing, cd is even reduced at earlier ranks as well. the trade off being no more point and click harrase, but if your moderate with skill shots then i don't see this is a problem, you'll also have allow you amazing harrase in team fights and allow you to be more safe with the 200 increase ranged.

W - Dark Matter COST70/80/90/100/110 mana ⇒ 70/75/80/85/90 mana COOLDOWN: 10 seconds ⇒ 10/9.5/9/8.5/8 seconds

lower cd and lower mana, pretty self exclamatory for a straight up buff.

E - Event Horizon NEWEVENT PLANNING: Appears instantly ⇒ Now has a 0.75 second delay before appearing COST: 80/90/100/110/120 mana ⇒ 80/85/90/95/100 mana COOLDOWN: 20/19/18/17/16 seconds ⇒ 18/17/16/15/14 seconds RANGE: 650 ⇒ 700

at first when i heard the it had delay i was like ew, but then looking at it, it hardly seems like a problem since its only .75 and thats still kind of meh but i think the compensatory buff to its range, mana and cd make up for it.

R - Primordial Burst RATIO: 1.2 ability power ⇒ 1.0 ability power COST: 125/175/225 mana ⇒ 125 mana at all ranks COOLDOWN: 130/110/90 seconds ⇒ 120/100/80 seconds

this is certainly going to hurt veigar bursting potential, i can say that with even with the large mana reduction and small cd reduction that this is a straight up nerf.

overall i think this will improve veigar significantly, and as someone who plays him from time to time and own his ult skin, i support this change to veigar.

2 Comments

Trídent2 votes

.75 is a lot. Especially because it has a notification. It's basically impossible to land it on a skilled and aware player as a stun. Q's buff doesn't make up for this. W basically doesn't exist. Overall, his changes are a crushing nerf, not a buff at all.

SanKakU1 votes

He is a better carry now, but a worse support. I think he is going to be great in bottom lane, now. Mage carry FTW.

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