So..........why is Galio melee again?

Eedat·Jul 7, 2016·77 votes·11,581 views

Does anyone else feel like Galio should be a ranged champ? I mean he has a poke mage feel except for his ult. Being melee feels wrong and awkward on him tbh.

Now that I think about it, what is with his whole kit? He has a pseudo poke-style mage feel but he is melee with a super all-in ult that he has no good way of using beside flash. He gets tank stats + heals out the ass and gets damage for building defense? I'm lost now

What is Galio again? Who are you people?

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CerealBoxOfDoomJul 7, 201619 votes

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Does anyone else feel like Galio should be a ranged champ? I mean he has a poke mage feel except for his ult. Being melee feels wrong and awkward on him tbh.

Now that I think about it, what is with his whole kit? He has a pseudo poke-style mage feel but he is melee with a super all-in ult that he has no good way of using beside flash. He gets tank stats + heals out the ass and gets damage for building defense? I'm lost now

What is Galio again? Who are you people?

he feels like a poke mage to you? You silly

MarshbouyJul 7, 201613 votes

he does feel like a poke mage, in laning phase at least. poke, then all in.

CerealBoxOfDoomJul 7, 20164 votes

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he does feel like a poke mage, in laning phase at least. poke, then all in.

you all in with poke mages?

MarshbouyJul 7, 201617 votes

thats what OP is talking about. He feels really, really clunky.

he has great burst with a Q E combo. Poke them down with Q E and then all in later in the game.

he makes no sense, long ranged poke skills, a speed buff on one of the damaging skills, a tank stat buff, and an all in ult.

He's all over the place. He either needs to be all in tank, or poke mage. I really think RIOT is going for all in pseudo tank and i think a few ability touch ups could help out his identity.

CerealBoxOfDoomJul 7, 201616 votes

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thats what OP is talking about. He feels really, really clunky.

he has great burst with a Q E combo. Poke them down with Q E and then all in later in the game.

he makes no sense, long ranged poke skills, a speed buff on one of the damaging skills, a tank stat buff, and an all in ult.

He's all over the place. He either needs to be all in tank, or poke mage. I really think RIOT is going for all in sudo tank and i think a few ability touch ups could help out his identity.

galio is an artillery support tank.. basically he's like an actual tank.

But galio's burst is not anything special. Its just support level damage. He's not a mage, he's not a poke mage. He can poke or whatever but that's not what his kit focuses on. All of his skills make it easier to all in.

cocacolalipsJul 7, 20166 votes

You haven't seen Galio builds AP stuff, he scores triple and quadra kills back to back with his R alone in every ARAM game he is in ever since they introduced snowball. Highest win rate on the map with a whooping 65%.

Mr FidoriJul 7, 20167 votes

Lol support level damage? His Q hits like a truck. At all levels. It's his bread and butter.

TotalJerkJul 7, 20162 votes

plenty of pokers have good burst: Vel'koz, Lux, Azir, Ezreal, Varus, Veigar, Zyra.

CerealBoxOfDoomJul 7, 20162 votes

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plenty of pokers have good burst: Vel'koz, Lux, Azir, Ezreal, Varus, Veigar, Zyra.

How many of them sit on top of you (directly) autoattacking for 10 minutes?

He said all in not face roll xD

CaítlynJul 7, 201615 votes

Why is Thresh ranged?

EedatJul 7, 201617 votes

because he has a chain that he uses as a whip.

Sire HippingtonJul 7, 201635 votes

Then gallio is melee because he's a gargoyle useing his fists....

Troll for TrumpJul 7, 201640 votes

Gangplank has gun

melee

Sire HippingtonJul 7, 201612 votes

'melee'

More than half of the time he plays like a ranged champ...

Troll for TrumpJul 7, 201612 votes

Cowers behind barrels

FantasySniperJul 8, 20168 votes

Barrels Intensifies

RiotLaBokaJul 8, 201617 votes

another one

Miss LuxannaJul 8, 20162 votes

"BARREL!" Yes, Gangplank, that is a barrel.

RalanrJul 7, 201629 votes

Well he's gotta use that sword somehow. He went through all the trouble of setting it on fire after all.

HayRossJul 7, 20165 votes

Even if you were skilled with a flintlock, it still took at least 10 full seconds to reload

EedatJul 7, 20168 votes

Well I mean you can only throw a spear once but that never stopped Nidalee

Kitsuki05Jul 8, 20167 votes

if you watch her animation closely, she runs into the forest, fetches a stick and ties a spearhead to it after every spear throw.

Virgin RayJul 7, 20165 votes

"Hahaha I don't have any restrictions at all!" Jayce

morris1Jul 8, 20165 votes

Malzahar has a gangster sacrificial dagger

throws... whatever he throws

EedatJul 7, 20169 votes

Ryze has a book....

is ranged....

SquishieJul 7, 20163 votes

This one got me. XDDDDDD

StatcheckyJul 7, 201612 votes

Galio's kit makes total sense. He is a tanky support that just happens to be a niche laner vs ap. He's got an AOE slow, an AOE move speed buff, a decent shield (that doesn't seem to work with new athenes :/) and best of all an AOE taunt that makes him great at protecting teammates from assassins since once they jump in they don't jump out.

I just wish his mana costs weren't so restrictive so I can make a jungler out of him.

A little PeepoJul 7, 20165 votes

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Galio's kit makes total sense. He is a tanky support that just happens to be a niche laner vs ap. He's got an AOE slow, an AOE move speed buff, a decent shield (that doesn't seem to work with new athenes :/) and best of all an AOE taunt that makes him great at protecting teammates from assassins since once they jump in they don't jump out.

I just wish his mana costs weren't so restrictive so I can make a jungler out of him.

Athenes doesn't work on his W because his W isn't considered a shield. Shields are supposed to absorb damage not reduce damage. I think his W states it shields but that's just wrongly worded if anything. A shield can save you from ignite or a chogath R but Galio W will not, if anything it's more of a buff more than anything.

5000000000000000Jul 7, 20161 votes

Athene's also work on heals, no? And his W has healing component?

TheI3igDaddyJul 7, 20161 votes

Galio's W buff will heal its target by a % of Galio's AP every time the target gets hit with a tick of damage from any source.

AP Galio can walk into a minion wave and heal half his health bar lategame, it's silly.

SpecterVonBarenJul 8, 20163 votes

No it heals HIM, not whoever he puts it on.

AMYS GRAVEJul 8, 20161 votes

So in principle athenes should amplify that heal right?

SpecterVonBarenJul 8, 20163 votes

No, because Athenes only applies to heals on OTHER champions. Can you imagine the chaos we'd be having right now with Nidalee or Swain if it worked with self heals?

ActivatingEMPJul 7, 20167 votes

I just played against a Galio and I'm completely lost as to what he is and how you fight him- his all in ult was doing 1000 damage to each person at the 20 minute mark (granted he was fed) and he had 60% damage reduction on ad and 75% on ap- I couldn't find a way to kill him! TL:DR- I have no fucking clue what the hell Galio is

RalanrJul 7, 20165 votes

A really awkward tank.

revliledpembrokeJul 7, 20161 votes

item 3033 item 3153 item 3151 item 3135

Sire HippingtonJul 7, 20165 votes

item 3151 is about the worst item to get then fighting a gallio...

revliledpembrokeJul 7, 20161 votes

Because an item with Magic Pen and % health damage burn is a bad item against a Magic Resist and health stacking tank.

Sire HippingtonJul 7, 20165 votes

Flat pen is more effective vs low mr targets and less efficient vs high mr. The current health dot isn't great vs a tank that gets littl raw health for a tank and has a self heal that specifically counters dots, especailly if they have as many low damage ticks as liandrys If youhave liandries and hit him with any spell while his W is up, he will be garantied to get the max out of his W heal

Captain AishiJul 7, 20163 votes

also never EVER take deathfire touch when laning against a galio... Did that once and oh boy was it fun to see him mess up a trade, press W and heal half his health back due to my DFT burns XD

AbyssphereJul 7, 20162 votes

You know nothing about Galio if you think Liandry's is strong against him. He heals off the passive, it's similar to auto-attacking him with a support.

pooppoop3Jul 7, 20166 votes

MR per level

Sire HippingtonJul 7, 20165 votes

I think beeing melee is fine for gallio. The thin feeling ankward is that he gets no reward from going melee. Any other melee champ has some mechanic conected to AAs in some way, or is expected to get items that empower AAs, only gallio doesn't. What he lacks is any reason to actually go melee besides the ult. I think he should loose his current passive and instead get some bonus damge on his AAs and some better base stats. His base ad+as are rather weak compared to most other tanks.

He's somewhat similar to chogath, he can poke/waveclear from afar and needs to land his skillshots to set up plays while haveing some great potential if he gets to the right spot. His Q is not only poke, the slow also allows to close in on the victim, same with E. E is easy to land, so you want to open with it, then you use speedboost to get in a good position for Q, and then you can close in on the slowed target(s) to....do something...this is where his design fails. His E and Q can work great as soft-engage tools with an ranged aoe slow and a teamwide speedbuff, but gallio him self has no reason to use those tools to get into close combat unless it's to ult.

JetjoeJul 7, 20164 votes

Who plays Galio?

EedatJul 7, 20161 votes

Nobody but 10 people on the entire planet who have 1000+ games each on him.

But its free Galio week apparently and I just got him on an ARAM

Blue Moon WolfJul 7, 20163 votes

Cause he's a gargoyle I guess? Take into account he is a very old champ that hasn't been updated in awhile (champ design was much different compared to what we have now). He also is very likely a part of the 3rd class Riot was looking at updating before they decided on assassins next, which was initiation tanks. They haven't gotten around to updating him alone with all these other updates that need to happen before him ( Yorick , Warwick , Swain , Evelynn to name a few), so it's likely they won't be in a place to do some work on him till they work on initiation tanks next year (which is looking like the end of next year at this point). Is he a bit clunky? yes. But he's not exactly in a bad place at the moment. He's doing extremely well after the mage update and if Amumu is any indication of what happens when an old champ is in a good spot, Riot will likely avoid working on him as long as possible.