Rengar REALLY needs a Nerf!!!!!

coreym11··4 votes·1,231 views

Ok so I know alot of my posts on this forum have been complaints but they are for good reasons and bugs that are problematic. But this seriously needs to be explained to me HOW this is balanced. I wish i had video of this match! I was playing a ranked match I was against Rengar and Ashe bot lane vs me Jinx and Thresh So bot lane went pretty good for me I had 4 kills 1 death. Rengar had 1 kill 2 death and Ashe had 2 death so me and Thresh did really good bot lane. So eventually as i played I was 10-1 such a very good kd for a ranked match when suddenly I see a rengar ult and am one shotted! Ok...I think as i shake it off maybe i took damage from someone else. I look at Rengars build item 3077 and item 3142 ok so there is no way Rengar was the only one that killed me so I proceed to try and win the ranked match. When suddenly we are in a team fight I am Jinx far back behind everybody when 1 get shotted again! No mistake it was Rengar iv'e seen no assassin drop me that fast! I was dropped faster than Trayvon Martin...Ok thats messed up. But so i say to Rengar and so that's balanced? Which he replies "Don' bitch that there's no counter play". After a couple minutes i look at my deaths im now 10-9 and Rengar now suddenly has 9 kills...ALL HIS KILLS WERE FROM ME! Gnar then says "Jinx quit feeding" On paper I was feeding but what i was actually doing was farming right under tower getting cs and avoiding team fights at this point. "This draws the line" I thought as I purchase item 3026 beforeitem 3072 I join the team fight again being once again in the very back to the far far left there was a bush. He again gets the push leap bursts me item 3026 didn't give me the defense to live! So I revive and instantly flash out of the chaos barely surviving the encounter partially relieved before I get the familiar "!" and my life is over. Rengar had only 2 items item 3074 and item 3142 and one goal to permanently keep me useless in the match this was about 20 minutes in the match. I could possibly understand if he was fed with a full Bonetooth necklace. But this is a Rengar who played poorly in beginning and got fed off me even though i was 10-0 with 2 more items over him. Just because he knew he had an idea of what assassins are supposed to target. Those of you who say he has counters and counterplay "He's hard to use" These are not legitimate excuses. I have never been bursted without having any counter play that hard in my life by anybody not any assassin! Sure there are other broken champs right now such as those who abuse devourMasterYi Shyvana Jax and those who just win trades easily and take no damage Irelia but if anything RENGAR needs SERIOUS consideration about fixing this god forsaken problem. Ty for reading this long ass post. I'm Pretty sure Riot won't care to read it.

9 Comments

Dreadlocks2 votes

No... Rengar is fine.. you have a few options but you should have ur team help with a few of them. Ill list Rengars biggest weaknesses in terms of his 1 shotitem 2043 upgradeditem 3341 item 3026 item 3157 (i know u are ADC but he can blow up apc's too so this is solid)And believe it or notitem 3102 is really good even vs AD rengar. Why? Because there is a good chance it'll block his empowered Q, However.. if the rengar is good enough itll prob only block his E. Having good item 2044 s around the map is pretty nice too because you can see when he uses ult then just place the pink ward. If he gets CC'd at any point diving you, hes dead. Aside from all these standard counters that everyone can use, I will list the ADC's he tends to struggle a lil more against when trying to 1 shot. In order of difficulty Vayne (R-Q) Ezreal (E) Tristana (R or W) Corki (W) Hope this helps.

Sachabot1 votes

He was doing his job. You were by yourself for quite a bit from the sound of it, I don't know what you were expecting. Tiamat/Hydra gives him an AA reset and Ghostblade gives him better chase and increased combat stats. His "poor play" was eating a bad lane to get an extra damage dealer later. I would advise not going off on your own for very long. Stick with the team and let them keep him off of you.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Pretty much, rengar loves a squishy thats alone, or hell even if hes buy another person that doesnt have CC. item 3077 item 3134 item 3035 is the recipe for 1shot, item 3142 s just means even if you see him coming, you flash, heal, blink, jump w.e away, he will still catch you ;)

coreym111 votes

Alot of you guys are saying that i was on my own which i need to be more clear. I was at the back of my team behind everybody and nobody could peel him off me because 1 he was invisible and 2 I died instantly In my opinion I feel like you need to set up waaaay to much to defend against one champion. An adc buying vision wards changing build path because you can't survive without doing so just forcing someone to change their build having no option if they want to play IS in fact broken. You should not be able to force somebody to change how they play and what they build just to have a 20% chance of actually surviving an encounter. Maybe if his ult didn't go off until out of combat kind of like twitch's invisibility maybe you would get your chance to counter it. But if you are playing as safe as you can behind your team or just simply farming under your tower you should not be able to get destroyed like that. Buying these items to prevent him makes you lose gold on items you should be buying and in the end would make you useless especially as an adc. I have full knowledge how Rengar works and plays. This link isn't nearly how bad it actually was but you at least get an idea of what actually happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld6PtiGEORQ

Dr Poro1 votes

I always ban him. If he gets one kill, just one, he snowballs out of control with his broken ult. His leap range is bigger than the range of the warning. He can litterally jump out of nowhere anytime. He's like shaco, but way easier to 100->0 someone because of his higher scalings and 4 damaging abilities in one rotation.

coreym111 votes

This champion isn't balanced in my opinion and doesn't allow you to react fast enough to save your self...No one should be able to burst you and leave you helpless like that...This guy makes Zed,Katarina,and Leblanc like amateurs much rather vs them. (I'm not a guy who thinks assassins are op they can be countered by buying a spirit visage ect.) But Rengar is too much of a problem thanks for your help though. But the point is even if you buy these items it only slightly increases your chances or living but you probably won't. Thank you guys for commenting and trying to help but these options take too much time and money having to buy like 3 items and wasting 1 slot to have a small chance of surviving one champ every 60 seconds.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

Man, this game is not balanced around bronze... Rengar can't do shit vs competent support who would move with you around the map and peel, pink ward etc. Vayne and Kalista have no problems, if the drop pink ward or have upgraded red trinket to duel him.

coreym111 votes

Vison only allows you see see Rengar before he Rapes you...All getting a pink is doing is seeing who your about to get raped by before you get raped when it comes to Rengar...Legit seeing somebody is not counterplay. Counterplay is when Cait is gonna use her ult on ekko then he ults so it doesnt hit him not vision before rape

ZenithEevee1 votes

1: Rengar cant, BY DEFINITION. One shot people.

What he CAN do, however, is minimize the time between each small burst of damage, like for example, AA, Q, E mid flight, W, and then use your Tiamat right before hitting the ground.

2: Buying any sort of armor negates his ability to do this early game.. Which is why rengar cant 1 shot tanks...

Checkmate.

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