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Looking for some Advice (Shaco Main)

MrEnder··2 votes·236 views

Hey I'm Ender and I'm a Shaco Jungle Main and I second as Lux mid. I play mostly ranked and that is what this post is referring to. I'm at a point in my league gaming where I don't know how to specifically improve. I know I can improve but where I can improve I don't know. I need someone high ranked to play some games with me or watch my replays and tell me what I'm doing wrong.

I am currently in silver 3 and I know in low elo there are better champs for both mid and jungle but I'd very much prefer to stick with Shaco as I just enjoy playing him the most.

I also need someone who can do more then just tell me what I've done wrong I need to know why its wrong and how I can improve it. I need to fully understand it to be able to do it.

Shaco I play both AD and AP depending on what team needs. Usually I go bruiser type AD jungle. I build dynamically for the game.

I already watch pro streamers, Shaclone, Pinkward and White Crow. I can copy their plays quite well now but I still must just be overlooking something.

So basically I need advice specifically tailored to me not just basic Shaco advice I'm past the basics I need something advanced to push myself to the next level so I can carry better even with a shitty team.

I have problems like "how can I die less and still do my job", "If I'm locked out of split pushing because so and so is guarding towers and team is badly behind and losing team fights so joining them is suicide... what do I do?", "Did I manage my time good enough early game did I spend to much time roaming and not enough farming". Like I can ask these questions but I don't know the answer to them. I probably have a lot of other things but I just don't know what they are that I need to improve on. So please any bit of advice would help.

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6 Comments

Dreadlocks1 votes

How long have u been playing?

MrEnder1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Red Rengo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WGFVeB14,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-09-24T18:07:20.577+0000)

How long have u been playing?

Since Season 1

Dreadlocks1 votes

Ouch man.. lol

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

welllllll...

i would say that one thing you could do is find a team of decent players to play with and by doing that you will automatically improve. secondly you could try changing your builds so that you get a little of both attack and ability. armor is really helpful for certain junglers and such but shaco being so evasive his kit is really just about misdirection. he's an assassin through and through. try invading more and taking on multiple enemies at once to improve your counter play skills. set up traps of your own and everything.

you're at the point that you dont need to keep following other's advice. you just need to keep working at your champion. learn everything about it from how the stats progress and start doing that math. then you need to do the same to all of the other champs and memorize at the very least the most common opponents that you would expect. then start taking shaco into other lanes and seeing how well you stack up against those champs. once you can actually go through an entire game without going super negative in a lane that's considered weak for shaco you're on your way.

the next step would be to ensure that your MS and FRAMES never lie by improving them as much as possible and keeping them reliable. shaco dies out in upper tiers because his entire kit is about misdirection and if your opponent understands that then it makes it really difficult to even use shaco in the casual way. you have to consider those factors when you try to set yourself up for a big play.

MrEnder1 votes

[{quoted}](name=BLACK REALM GOD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WGFVeB14,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-09-24T19:09:03.746+0000)

welllllll...

i would say that one thing you could do is find a team of decent players to play with and by doing that you will automatically improve. secondly you could try changing your builds so that you get a little of both attack and ability. armor is really helpful for certain junglers and such but shaco being so evasive his kit is really just about misdirection. he's an assassin through and through. try invading more and taking on multiple enemies at once to improve your counter play skills. set up traps of your own and everything.

you're at the point that you dont need to keep following other's advice. you just need to keep working at your champion. learn everything about it from how the stats progress and start doing that math. then you need to do the same to all of the other champs and memorize at the very least the most common opponents that you would expect. then start taking shaco into other lanes and seeing how well you stack up against those champs. once you can actually go through an entire game without going super negative in a lane that's considered weak for shaco you're on your way.

the next step would be to ensure that your MS and FRAMES never lie by improving them as much as possible and keeping them reliable. shaco dies out in upper tiers because his entire kit is about misdirection and if your opponent understands that then it makes it really difficult to even use shaco in the casual way. you have to consider those factors when you try to set yourself up for a big play.

Believe it or not but I already do all of the above =\

I change my build game specific usually based around his core items working on a scale of what he needs.

I can win any lane with Shaco. Laning phase isn't where I'm struggling it's after laning phase...

I can go in assassinate the enemy ADC then escape jump in kill the mid and I usually die doing that. Then its 4v3 and my team still doesn't win cause I'm usually the one fully carrying... so I need to carry even hard I need to be able to get it so together I can 1v5 low elos =\

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

if you die killing the mid then you need to work on that. the less you die the less xp your opponents will receive and you're likely to out-level them. if you want to take on the entire enemy team you're going to need to be 4 levels at least higher than their levels. otherwise just sit back and relax. shaco is an assassin and cant really carry a game late game. you need to power spike somewhere around 15 minutes in. try securing more drakes and herald. if you're killing everyone you'll level your team slowly as long as they're getting assists. hold their hand and protect them so you can further decrease the xp and gold the enemies get. personally i dont believe in core items.

try killing the mid without escape jumping to them. you need to save your Q for retreating.

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