Darius ult?

LatetotheRace·Nov 27, 2015·2 votes·448 views

So... I'm confused, Cho'gaths ult requires a decent amount of ap to hit 1k+ damage, whereas Darius just does at lvl 16. Cho'gath can only hit one target regardless of whether it kills it or not, and Darius can hit a maximum of 5 targets in rapid succession. So why is it that Cho'gath can't eat all 5 enemies? (Probably because it would op as hell?) So maybe we could just take a moment and talk about this like calm adults, and figure out how to make this toxic BM ult a little less toxic. It's just bizarre that a tank can get pentadunks like clockwork.

Has prepared me for the incoming flame. Yes, we get it you spent 20$ something dollars on a skin and you don't want him nerfed.

6 Comments

SS EnforcerNov 27, 20153 votes

Simply put:

A high damage darius ult is harder to access.
Darius has lower ratios.
Cho gets a ton of bonus stats from his ult. Now you may say that darius does the same thing, just instead of hp, he gets ad. First, he gets the bonus ad from his passive, not his ult, second, getting 5 stacks and achieving noxian might still requires a lot of things to go well.
The two ults should not be compared because many things depend on the rest of their kit, how they work... etcetera. You don't go around comparing thresh q and blitz q, because on paper, blitz q is much better than thresh q, but thresh has the better kit that suits his q more.
You are salty as hell.

GotShivGGNov 27, 20152 votes

How many bleed stacks does it take for Cho'Gath to ult someone again?

RespectPlusNov 27, 20152 votes

darius just need 1

JustMyBassCannonNov 27, 20152 votes

Darius only gets 1000 damage from his ultimate with >266 bonus AD.

Sure, Cho'gath needs 500 AP to deal 1k damage with Feast, but 500 AP is actually much easier to gain than ~270 bonus AD. Deathcap + RoA + Zhonya's + Abyssal is (390 * 1.35) = 526 AP without any runes/masteries involved, for a grand total of 12650 gold. Also provides Armor, MR, Health, Mana, MR Shred and that wonderful stasis active.

Meanwhile, how would you build Darius for enough AD to get that level of damage? Definitely not tank. The juggernaut itemization update gave bruisers some nice options, but nothing that would grant them the same amount of AD for one pure offense item and three offense+defense options.