Hey Riot can you unnerf Swains AA range? Your "update" actually made him go DOWN in win rate

5050BS·Jul 27, 2019·1 votes·855 views

His AA Range is basicllly melee range now. Most top laners and mid laners can full trade when you go in to AA.

He now relays too much on hitting W and E and with all the Mobile champs (really only ones that can cut it in meta) getting stacks is not rewarding enough

Nas and Veigar gets stacks and can become beasts

Swain even with 120 stacks (very hard to get in a 45m game) just is Meh.

His stacks need to give way more HP or damage to bring him up to over 48%

I would make his stacks give 3 HPs, 2 AP and 3 Mana

I would make his Ult do bonus damage and healing equal to his stacks

Currently there are just no reason to play Swain over a ton of other champs. He does not counter anyone and does not do anything great that other champs dont do.

1 Comments

Yets4240Jul 27, 20191 votes

I think you're asking for far too much at once. I'd say first undo the range nerf, then see where he is.

I really dislike the idea of giving him anything more than a small amount of hp per stack. Adding 2 AP on there, so that 120 stacks = 240 AP = 5,220 gold worth of stats is insanely overkill, especially with him also getting then 3 HP x 120 stacks = 360 HP = 958g + 3 mana x 120 stacks = 360 mana = 540g.

Basically, the HP + mana is only worth a combined 1500g, but the AP alone would be worth well over three fucking times that much. Essentially changing him from an HP stacker that fits with the drain tank niche, to a Viegar clone, trying to stack as much AP as humanly possible.

Additionally, compared to his 5 hp passive currently, he's getting only 600 HP at 120 stacks, which is only worth 1600g, not the monstrous 6,720g worth of free stats he'd have with your (poor) suggestion. You're essentially asking to inflate the value of his passive by a fucking insane 420% just from the gold value of free stats he'd obtain. This game needs less free stat checking-- especially on range champions, and those with their own heals/sustain and hard CC.