Can we have a real talk about the MM system?

lolipopevelynn·Mar 21, 2016·1 votes·499 views

How accurate is it? it just seems so damn flawed with who you are matched with and vs....

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1st MovementMar 21, 20162 votes

its fine just improve teammates You can dynamic que to increase the chance of better teammates

If you are good none of that matters

lolipopevelynnMar 21, 20161 votes

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its fine just improve teammates You can dynamic que to increase the chance of better teammates

If you are good none of that matters

unless you are challenger the teammates you get always matters because no matter how good you are you will always hit a wall that you need to climb over. diamond 1s wall being the wall to masters, then the challenger wall which is the "final" wall and then you get to challenger 1 and perhaps get picked on a pro team. thats like 1% of the total player base however. so the wall you hit, regardless of which wall it is, should not be limited by the teammates you get.

dynamic que does not give "better teammates". who even told you that?

1st MovementMar 21, 20161 votes

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unless you are challenger the teammates you get always matters because no matter how good you are you will always hit a wall that you need to climb over. diamond 1s wall being the wall to masters, then the challenger wall which is the "final" wall and then you get to challenger 1 and perhaps get picked on a pro team. thats like 1% of the total player base however. so the wall you hit, regardless of which wall it is, should not be limited by the teammates you get.

dynamic que does not give "better teammates". who even told you that?

You do trust your friends don't u?

Your still in low Elo I don't try to be mean but if you master a champion to a point and keep improving your gameplay you can carry but you don't always have to be able to carry

For example I am super fed and stream rolling

I roam to other lanes and let ppl ks me so they hit their power spike

lolipopevelynnMar 21, 20161 votes

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You do trust your friends don't u?

Your still in low Elo I don't try to be mean but if you master a champion to a point and keep improving your gameplay you can carry but you don't always have to be able to carry

For example I am super fed and stream rolling

I roam to other lanes and let ppl ks me so they hit their power spike

we are not talking about carrying here, we are talking about MMing solely. regardless of your ability to carry or not it should NEVER be the case or a scenario that you have to "1v5" and carry your entire team on your 1 back because they are getting rolled by each individual lane. i have carried games like that before, and it puts an enormous strain/stress on yourself to do that.

in any team sport you play you will never see one person carrying his teammates because they are incapable of doing so. its a team effort.

MeurtrierrMar 21, 20162 votes

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we are not talking about carrying here, we are talking about MMing solely. regardless of your ability to carry or not it should NEVER be the case or a scenario that you have to "1v5" and carry your entire team on your 1 back because they are getting rolled by each individual lane. i have carried games like that before, and it puts an enormous strain/stress on yourself to do that.

in any team sport you play you will never see one person carrying his teammates because they are incapable of doing so. its a team effort.

This. In dota 2, i never lose in rank. I only lost once 2 days ago real talk.

Yet, i`m not always the carry it never feels like a 1 vs 5. Everyone know what they're doing and the support or anyone else will always ward even if it requires 75g to buy 1 from the shop. Ppl buy dust, the blue wards and any other utility items.

Point being, i don't always have to carry, i don't always have to tank a tanky champ with support capability(like sion) in dota, i can farm in peace in my lane and win in team fights later, i don't have to teleport to save-face, i don't have to do none of what i do in lol in order to win because agian, everyone know what they're doing which mean the mmr works.

The fact i never lose in dota 2 is no surprise for me since i been playinf dota 1 since day 1.

lolipopevelynnMar 22, 20161 votes

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This. In dota 2, i never lose in rank. I only lost once 2 days ago real talk.

Yet, i`m not always the carry it never feels like a 1 vs 5. Everyone know what they're doing and the support or anyone else will always ward even if it requires 75g to buy 1 from the shop. Ppl buy dust, the blue wards and any other utility items.

Point being, i don't always have to carry, i don't always have to tank a tanky champ with support capability(like sion) in dota, i can farm in peace in my lane and win in team fights later, i don't have to teleport to save-face, i don't have to do none of what i do in lol in order to win because agian, everyone know what they're doing which mean the mmr works.

The fact i never lose in dota 2 is no surprise for me since i been playinf dota 1 since day 1.

ive played dota for awhile aswell, the MMing in that game is pretty solid. you are right it never feels one sided nor do you feel like you have to 1v5 carry a game. this game is the complete opposite. snowballing is a real issue in this game. after one or 2 kills your enemy laner is pretty much helpless against you when up against certain champs.

1st MovementMar 21, 20161 votes

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we are not talking about carrying here, we are talking about MMing solely. regardless of your ability to carry or not it should NEVER be the case or a scenario that you have to "1v5" and carry your entire team on your 1 back because they are getting rolled by each individual lane. i have carried games like that before, and it puts an enormous strain/stress on yourself to do that.

in any team sport you play you will never see one person carrying his teammates because they are incapable of doing so. its a team effort.

find friends to duo with and stop complaining about it then theres no strain / stress if u cant 1v5 there are games where u dont carry its all about learning to become a better player

lolipopevelynnMar 21, 20161 votes

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find friends to duo with and stop complaining about it then theres no strain / stress if u cant 1v5 there are games where u dont carry its all about learning to become a better player

are you stupid or just dont understand the concept of "solo" que? sometimes friends are not available to play, and duo or making ranked teams with a arranged party complety devoids the point of it to begin with. we are STILL waiting for "true" solo que 4 months after the pre season started, but thats a rant for another day. the fact of the matter is i should NOT have to arrange a entire team just to avoid shitty players, thats stupid logic.

http://imgur.com/AcbM6tn

THIS type of shit should never happen. do you see how scewed the rankings are? an entire team of silver 3s vs a completely MIXED team of silver players? do you honestly not see a problem with this? believe it or not, silver 5 and silver 3 are very different in skill level from each other the same way a dia 5 vs a dia 3 player is different in skill level. sure, if i was diamond level i could carry my team, but the fact is im not fucking diamond. im gold/high silver level and it is stupidly hard to climb when teams are so unevenly matched.

there is nothing to learn from a game like this. the only thing you ask yourself is "how can i better 1v5 carry games like this?" which is a stupid fucking question to ask in a TEAM game

1st MovementMar 21, 20161 votes

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are you stupid or just dont understand the concept of "solo" que? sometimes friends are not available to play, and duo or making ranked teams with a arranged party complety devoids the point of it to begin with. we are STILL waiting for "true" solo que 4 months after the pre season started, but thats a rant for another day. the fact of the matter is i should NOT have to arrange a entire team just to avoid shitty players, thats stupid logic.

http://imgur.com/AcbM6tn

THIS type of shit should never happen. do you see how scewed the rankings are? an entire team of silver 3s vs a completely MIXED team of silver players? do you honestly not see a problem with this? believe it or not, silver 5 and silver 3 are very different in skill level from each other the same way a dia 5 vs a dia 3 player is different in skill level. sure, if i was diamond level i could carry my team, but the fact is im not fucking diamond. im gold/high silver level and it is stupidly hard to climb when teams are so unevenly matched.

there is nothing to learn from a game like this. the only thing you ask yourself is "how can i better 1v5 carry games like this?" which is a stupid fucking question to ask in a TEAM game

Then quit whining and stay in silver

You can totally turn a game around just get git and learn from your mistakes

lolipopevelynnMar 21, 20161 votes

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Then quit whining and stay in silver

You can totally turn a game around just get git and learn from your mistakes

you are completely missing the point. its like shooting over your head every time. there is nothing to learn from those games except how to be a one man fucking army. the point being that should NEVER be the case. you should be able to trust your teammates atleast a little bit, but you cant.

dragons you have to do yourself, tower taking you have to do yourself, barons you hav to do yourself, towers/inhib taking you have to do yourself. all of it, every fucking aspect of the game you HAVE TO DO YOURSELF. Why is this point so hard to get across to you?

1st MovementMar 21, 20161 votes

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you are completely missing the point. its like shooting over your head every time. there is nothing to learn from those games except how to be a one man fucking army. the point being that should NEVER be the case. you should be able to trust your teammates atleast a little bit, but you cant.

dragons you have to do yourself, tower taking you have to do yourself, barons you hav to do yourself, towers/inhib taking you have to do yourself. all of it, every fucking aspect of the game you HAVE TO DO YOURSELF. Why is this point so hard to get across to you?

Gitgud stop whining

lolipopevelynnMar 21, 20162 votes

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Gitgud stop whining

this type of comment usually means someone has conceded to the others argument. when they can no longer think of a counter argument they just come up with some one liner because they are not man enough to admit they have lost an argument.

1st MovementMar 21, 20161 votes

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this type of comment usually means someone has conceded to the others argument. when they can no longer think of a counter argument they just come up with some one liner because they are not man enough to admit they have lost an argument.

Your too ignorant to accept mistakes when someone's trying to help you

lolipopevelynnMar 21, 20162 votes

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Your too ignorant to accept mistakes when someone's trying to help you

"get a duo" on a topi thats purely about solo que MM is not advice, its retardation.

1st MovementMar 21, 20161 votes

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"get a duo" on a topi thats purely about solo que MM is not advice, its retardation.

exactly if you arent good then dont solo sharpen your main champions until you can carry regardless if your team is doing bad or good

sometimes you do good you can carry sometimes you do bad and cant carry then expect your team to carry

its all about experience in the end think about what you should have done better

lolipopevelynnMar 22, 20161 votes

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exactly if you arent good then dont solo sharpen your main champions until you can carry regardless if your team is doing bad or good

sometimes you do good you can carry sometimes you do bad and cant carry then expect your team to carry

its all about experience in the end think about what you should have done better

you are so illiterate it hurts. ive said many times its not about carrying or not, its about the MM itself. at this point i just think you are trolling because i dont think anyone is that dumb, so im done talking with a troll.

6/10 for getting me to respond for this long, no originality tho.

1st MovementMar 22, 20161 votes

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you are so illiterate it hurts. ive said many times its not about carrying or not, its about the MM itself. at this point i just think you are trolling because i dont think anyone is that dumb, so im done talking with a troll.

6/10 for getting me to respond for this long, no originality tho.

Judging by your opinion you like blaming it on mm Like how to lose your games and take all the kills when your team needed the kills

Get off your high chair and make a better excuse

MeurtrierrMar 21, 20161 votes

The mm system can be inaccurate sometime. In a game, i had everyone below 1000 mmr in my team. The enemy team had everyone above 1000 mmr.

How is that fair? As expected, we lost 10-45. I was sion, doing my thing, but i can't win when the mmr purposely go wrong like that.