I'm hoping the Kog'maw rework revert may set a precedent for Riot. So I was wondering what champions you think were rushed in the major class updates that you wished could be reverted.
I'll start with Graves and Quinn who were removed reworked in the 5.22 Marksmen Update.
Valor Bot3 votesQuinn is my all-time favorite Champion even after the rework, but I stand by my view that removing the ability to play as Valor was a mistake. It's like removing Gangplank's oranges; you just don't -- it's core to that Champion's theme and a big part of what makes them fun, unique, and enjoyable. Before Quinn, there was no other AD carry who had a melee transformation as their ultimate. Many people claimed that kind of ult wasn't good on a Marksman, but I feel this comes from ignorance and a lack of practice with the ability rather than acknowledging it wasn't appropriate to use in every situation (diving into a teamfight was rarely a smart thing to do as Valor).
Besides, to quote Riot Statikk on the subject:
{quoted}Ultimates often "break" the normal rules of Clases and Subclasses, that's what makes them interesting and cool a lot of the time. For example, Ashe's R as a long-range initiation spell is not something we'd normally put on a Marksman.
This is why oftentimes some ultimates feel out of place on certain Champions (Shyvana is a Juggernaut whose ult gives her mobility, Katarina is an Assassin whose ult deals AoE damage and requires her to stand in place, etc.) Given this, I'm not sure why a Marksman who could temporarily become a melee Assassin was any less wrong or healthy than the above examples.
Now, I'm not saying Quinn was 100% viable before her rework or that she isn't strong today, because she is. I also don't mean to claim she was the epitome of gameplay health -- she definitely had some issues in regards to oppressiveness against melee Champions, and a feast-or-famine play pattern. But I refuse to believe removing Valor as a playable character was 100% necessary in achieving a healthy gameplay state for the Champion, or getting her to be the map-mobile character they wanted her to be. While balancing dual-form characters can be tricky, it isn't impossible, and I imagine even less so for Quinn who had closer to 1.5 kits than 2 (as opposed to Nidalee and Jayce who actually have two distinct kits packed into one).
What's worse is that she still has quite a few glaring issues that her rework was intended to solve -- she's still feast-or-famine, still employs an assassination pattern that's difficult to express skill with or respond to aside from dodging a skillshot, and still pretty oppressive against immobile melees that are typically found in the top lane. While I don't think a full revert would be appropriate, I definitely think some changes need to be made to land Quinn (and Valor) in a better place.
Ralanr2 votesUhh...Graves is actually really unique thanks to his rework. There's no reason to really revert him back to being a sub par Lucian.
ABlueQuaker2 votesUniquely cancerous. Old Graves would have been amazing last season with 
or 
. Graves was only gated by CDR and Mana and both became easily accessible to AD Carries last season.
Ralanr2 votesBecause BC on a marksmen should always be a core build item. That didn't cause problems at all.
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ABlueQuaker1 votesI was merely pointing out how strong the 40% CDR would have been on a Caster-Carry who was suffering from lack of reasonable access to CDR. Runaan's actually synergizes with Graves' kit MORE than the Korean build.
BastionKross2 votesGraves is definitely unique. He's the only ranged drain-tank bruiser in the game.
The issue is that there should never be a ranged drain-tank bruiser in the game.
Ralanr2 votesThe issue is that there should never be a ranged drain-tank bruiser in the game.
Isn't that what Swain and Vlad are supposed to be anyway?
ABlueQuaker2 votesBut they can't jungle without taking damage, have minimal burst and are actually meant to be ranged drain-tank bruisers. Their healing is also tied to moderate damage abilities with fairly hefty mana costs and cooldowns, not auto-attacks.
Ralanr1 votesI'm not saying Graves is balanced. I'm saying that as a champion he's unique and offers a certain playstyle.
A big part of class reworks is to help diversify a homogenized group of champions. Riot for the most part has succeeded here. Balancing them is a different story.
ABlueQuaker2 votesGraves was a close-range caster-carry who was eclipsed by Lucian because he was released in an incredibly strong state at a time where Graves was suffering because he had been nerfed on several occasions. Graves was unique until Riot made a clone that surpassed him in strength.
Big Lincoln2 votesMordekaiser, Malzahar, Swain and Quinn
champions I kinda enjoyed that I now hate.
Riot needs to stop forcing crit onto ADCs and balance them as their own champions with their own kits. Same goes for Miss Fortune and Caitlyn.
BastionKross2 votesLet's go all the way back to the juggernauts:
Neither one should have gotten past the "Hey, that's a stupid idea" phase of development.
ABlueQuaker2 votesI think Skarner could be soft-reworked into a pretty cool champion from the state he's in right now. Mainly his altar mechanics. I feel like he's too easily punished if he's behind, and he's useless in lanes. His should have like 4 altars per jungle quadrant, that cover less territory, but stay captured for 4 times as long. Dead turrets should also turn into altars so he can actually siege and teamfight mid-to-late game.
JackMcSnipeyz1 votesSkarner, if i wanted to play dominion i'd.... Oh wait
S0kaX1 votesI don't know if Shen rework happened in a class update, to I guess Shen 
TheHappyReaperz1 votesWhat champions were rushed in the major class updates? Do you the mean the ones that were actually rushed, or the ones I think were rushed but have no actual evidence to support, and am only saying they were rushed because I'm one of those salty peeps who enjoyed one-shotting people as Pre-Rework Poppy?
Rebonack1 votesMalzahar, no questions asked.
Used to play him all the time. Have hardly touched him with the new update.