The moment I get a 5 man ult with 5 4 allies near me and only half the team ever joins. I don't get how you do it. This is why I jungle assassins. It frustrates me every single time they wait, walking back and fourth until they see you're still alive for at least 5 seconds before joining.
I really don't have the patience for that. Props to tank mains, your patience is that of a saint.
Kitten of Evil20 votesAsk any support main and they'll tell you the same. Tank and support are the most team-reliant roles. They are also the expected ward-providers and the ones who are always at the lowest levels.
Whenever I play as either role I feel like I spend all game running around the map trying to put out fires.
Rew7112 votesIt's funny we never find this support in game.
Gunpoint8 votesTry Nautilus, makes it pretty clear when you are engaging.
AbrahamBaconham23 votesAnd that crazy CC means the laners have plenty of time to catch up with you. Whenever I play Nautilus, I feel like I'm trying to force feed a pack of children who insist that they don't like ice cream until I shove it right in their faces.
"Here you go, here's the enemy carry! Kill it quick before it gets away!" "But I don't wanna-" "KILL THE FCKING CARRY I SWEAR TO GOD"
Ariel the Cruel6 votesThis reminds me of Thresh's Lantern.
Troy2426211 votesYou can shove it down their throat, only 1/3rd of the population will take the thing.
Ariel the Cruel1 votesOh, I I love when I throw lantern over a wall. And they just flash over it instead.
"Why am I even here?"
Kobila20005 votesThe ice cream analogy works even better with Skarner. You'd expect a 1,75 sec frozen snack in the middle of the team to die instantly, but teammates can be pretty slow in the head in that regard.
Big Bang Bob7 votesYou haven't seen what happens when they DO like ice cream.
Imma kill the carry! :D
Wait for me to poke them down! No! Not next to that 
!
and ally has been slain! 
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It's even worst when you accidentally take a kill. (Actually, the players I meet are usually not that bad, but I guess that means I need to play more support.)
Troy2426211 votesSupport gives me headaches, too. When my ADC is paying attention, I actually find it very enjoyable and fulfilling. When they don't, I feel miserable. For instance, if I stun the enemy ADC right as they walk up to a minion to CS it, they're close enough for you to get a free AA. I'll ping first, and yeah you won't be able to do it all the time, I get that.
But I swear some ADCs go out of their way to NEVER attack when you CC the enemy carry. It's like they tunnel so hard on CSing they ignore every other lane mechanic. It makes me SO thankful when I support a good ADC, because I have a lot of respect for the difficulty of what they do. I just wish it didn't bone me over so badly when they haven't got a clue. I'm not a good enough support to carry bad lanes :x.
OperationDEEZ11 votesMost people forget that it's a double-sided coin, I had an 
who kept diving onto a 
and, when I told her that it was a fucking stupid idea, she goes mid and feeds.
GaleWinUnleashed6 votesUs support mains are in roughly the same boat. We can't do anything without backup from our team, but it's difficult to coordinate them properly. Nevertheless, I still love playing support Janna. Peels forever!
Serpens2 votesJanna is probably one of my favorite champions and I normally ask for support if I don't get mid or top. Janna is just such a well rounded champion and when you get those clutch ultimates or those amazing catches it just feels so good
Gigi Dawnsinger5 votesI seem to do nothing but jungle as a tank =/ mainly for the sustain to keep the enemy busy while team mates unleash hell. But I have recently taken up Warwick as a jungle so we'll see how that goes.
But I get where your coming from man, I know how that feels, especially when they start telling you "your not tanky enough" when your close to almost 4k hp...then it's just like, wtf.
Troy2426216 votesEnd game 20k build Shyvana ulting into five enemies. No way I wasn't tanky enough >:L. It's just so frustrating. They regularly blew 2+ ults on me or else their ADC gets zoned from the fight entirely.
Especially end game, joining a tank's initiate and losing is FAR BETTER than not joining and letting two allies die for nothing. If you take their ADC and AD assassin down and the rest are wounded, even one survivor can stop a push. 3v5 can't stop sh*t.
SlackerboyTC3 votesThanks man, Leona player here and yes I do hate it when i get that perfect ulti but nobody joins in.
Troy2426213 votesI really don't get how you can put up with that. If I do well as an assassin, I'm rewarded. If I f*ck up, I'm punished.
Tanks? If I play poorly I'm still boned, but if I do well, I still need to rely on my team to reap the rewards.
Makes me want to throw my keyboard when I get that perfect initiate and nothing happens.
SlackerboyTC2 votesI really don't get how you can put up with that. If I do well as an assassin, I'm rewarded. If I f*ck up, I'm punished.
Tanks? If I play poorly I'm still boned, but if I do well, I still need to rely on my team to reap the rewards.
Makes me want to throw my keyboard when I get that perfect initiate and nothing happens.
Yea it sucks hardcore.
DMouseslayer2 votesI hate when you EQ as Leona into an enemy team and keep like, the super scary one shut down for a good 4 seconds, then survive the melee for another 8 or 9 seconds, and THEN have your team go in when you die.
Though honestly, I really do enjoy playing a tank champion more than squishy ones. I do so much better if I have a lot of HP and defenses just because my position as well, anyone, isn't the greatest. But as a tank I know where I'm suppose to be. In the front lines messing with their front liners or peeling for ADC.
HippieKiller1 votesI hate when you EQ as Leona into an enemy team and keep like, the super scary one shut down for a good 4 seconds, then survive the melee for another 8 or 9 seconds, and THEN have your team go in when you die.
Though honestly, I really do enjoy playing a tank champion more than squishy ones. I do so much better if I have a lot of HP and defenses just because my position as well, anyone, isn't the greatest. But as a tank I know where I'm suppose to be. In the front lines messing with their front liners or peeling for ADC.
This is a good example of why a lot of times the team doesnt follow into that "perfect initiation", becauses its not. A lot of tank players fall into the trap of "my team is following my lead and watching me" so when he/she thinks its time to go in they expect the team to follow. But there are other factors at play. Things the tank can miss. For example; you are facing a 5v4 advantage and say BOOM, time to go in. But maybe you missed seeing that assassin poking his head out of the jungle in the rear. Your team is backing out and now you are out of position. You go in, they say "shit" and try and follow. 8-9 seconds later, you are dead and they are finally joining the fight.
Dont get me wrong, there are times when it IS the right time to go in and the team does get it (bad positioning, poor situational awareness, etc). I 'mained' tanks for most of seasons 1-4 so I get it. But I also enjoy playing other roles so have been able to see things from all sides.
AlphaNumericEnz03 votesI think a lot of the problem is communication. It's quite hard to get everybody coordinated when the tank decided to initiate unless you're on Skype or something.
BallisticMouse3 votesI hate people who only want to join the fight to get last hits on kills.
4262873 votesDo not play tanks in low elo. Playing tanks at higher elos is fine, because they have the brains to actually understand to follow up on engages etc.
Partholonian1 votesI disagree with this; well, not about the teams not following up, because that totally can happen, but a team with no tanks gets wrecked really easily. Almost every team in low elo needs more tanks than it has. But you have to focus on peel and countering dives more so than trying to engage for a wombo combo, because a lot of the time it's not going to happen.
Hang around a squishy damage dealer and wait for someone like 
to show up. Then lock him down while your teammate melts his face. If they were capable of learning not to dive someone protected by a tank, they wouldn't stay in low elo. (Of course, if my ideas worked consistently, neither would I...)
Galiö2 votesI'm low in solo Q and I can't tell you how many times I grab a 5 man ult as galio and my team doesn't engage until about a second till after my ult is over. They are not even 500 range away.
WolfBV2 votesWhy I like Sejuani jungle, I don't even gotta risk my life when initiating. I can go in with the rest of my team since my initiate is ranged.
Bodkins Odds1 votesPlus you can jump into the backline while they're stunned and kill the squishy guy yourself. Sejuani hurts even if you build her 100% tank. :D
WolfBV2 votesBby yus, all u need to hurt is ur Liandrys.
Vecuu2 votesWhile it sucks to land the perfect ult and then have your team not follow up, the blame cannot solely be place on your team.
A lot of 'perfect ults' are Flash-engagements, which can put you too far ahead of your team. As the initiator, it is your job to look for both the perfect engage, and to ensure that your team is in a position to follow up.
I have seen Amumu flash+bandagetoss+ultimates completely go to waste, because nobobdy else on the team can even hope to follow up.
Lost R2 votesI like tanking. For me, few things are more enjoyable than watching the entire enemy focus you in utter desperation to kill you and fail.
A few champions are really good at tanking and dealing damage at the same time. You just need to know how to properly build them, and most people don't know how, because they associate damage with stat numbers too much. My favorite weapon to build for tanks (like Braum, Volibear, Nautilus and Thresh) is Wit's End. It deals 42 magic damage and provides a decent amount of magic resist and steals more from the enemy (a stat most neglect to build). Tanks that specialize in dealing magic damage through their skills (Rammus, Sejuani, Zac, Nautilus, Amumu) benefit from building LIandri's Torment as their primary damage item (though Thornmail works just as well for Rammus). Tanks that have a lot of basic attack focus (Nautilus, Volibear, Braum, Vi, Udyr, Trundle) should focus on upping their DPS and maximizing what they can do with on-hit effects (Sheen items, Wit's End, Black Cleaver, Frozen Mallet).
In the end, though, yes, they are meant to be team players, and allies should know when you're ready to charge the enemy.
Only Play Darius2 votesI love being obnoxiously hard to kill for the enemy team.
can build straight tank and still do plenty of damage.
Lost R4 votesDon't tread on the bear 
Ariel the Cruel3 votes
Kick him out instead.
Big Bang Bob2 votesI play top lane 
. He's a pure tank, so if me or my team don't feed, I get to do whatever I want and dash through a wall if things look bad.
JJ H0G1 votesYou want to know how to make a scary Shen? Frozen Mallet+Rylai's after you get some resists. You get to permaslow the enemy of your choice.
Borbland2 votesAs a big Shyvana/Volibear player, I understand that.
When you get the perfect opportunity to engage (their adc with bad positionning) and engage, some times your adc decides 2 ssec earlier he's going botlane unpushing.
The time he comes back it's too late, we all died, yay.....
Crett2 votesIt'd be so much better if tanks could last longer than 3 seconds against an ADC but NOOOOOO
Thefriendlyorc1 votesTanks cant really contribute into the solo 'meta' because they cant solo kill. They take too much coordination and tbh a lot of times its hardly worth the effort when other champs do more CC and can kill on their own (cough 
Cough). In fact the tanks in the current jungle dont even have good clear, compared to assassins or bruisers. They have to hope they're lucky enough to clear fast enough to HOPE they dont get counterjungled to pray that they can gank.
LordOfTheLeague2 votesThat's not true, most tanks can solo kill people, it's just that you can't solo kill people with a full tank build. And it's normal because that wouldn't be balanced. People never adapted to that and that's why tanks are not popular.
Thefriendlyorc1 votesTanks that dont build defenses cant survive long enough to effectively damage people. As most tanks abilities are extended damage over time types. The three mentioned have heavy burst, great numbers and can duel. They dont even need to build full tank to survive because they have mobility to be in the fight as little as possible and make incredible impact. Bruisers do too much and tanks arent compensated for their lack of damage.
LordOfTheLeague2 votesThat's another wrong assumption, the tanks i'm talking about are nautilus, sejuani, amumu, cho'gath too. The damage of these guys are all about using all their cd on their targets and to kill them or to be killed because they have really poor dps.
The biggest assumption you are doing is when you imply that you either build defense or build offense and not a mix of both. But it's exactly what you have to do as a tank to be relevant. To build damage to not be a wet noodle and a lot of defense to survive in the middle of the fight.
Start building the proper items on tanks and you will see that you can deals close to as much damage as a bruisers while being really tanky.
WickedCrow1 votesThe biggest problem is that if you don't keep up in terms of the game (AKA, kat or riven starts facerolling early), it becomes harder to play tanks. I used to main Naut till the new jungle gave him a mad beating a long with more damage focused junglers becoming more popular, like WW, Lee Sin (i guess hes always popular), Vi, Panth, etc. Probably the biggest issue is that even with sheer defense, HP, and CC, building a simple last whisper, void staff, or anything with percent damage (fucking BotRK and Last Whisper builds omg), just shreds through tanks so your team gets discouraged to fight. Hopefully Riot will be giving out buffs to both supports and tanks in future patches, maybe even items that can nulifiy some crit damage or gives burst tank or healing.
bureburebure2 votesHe was very popular in season 2 and 3 when I was playing the game (only came back recently). It struck me as amusing that he would still be considered so strong after all this time, but it's not really surprising. He has a great kit, I guess I was just expecting Riot to nerf him more in the meantime but I guess they didn't?
WickedCrow1 votesWell the meta right now is mobility and damage, and Lee Sin has both those easily. A long with utility, sustain, etc,etc hes strong as all hell. I'm not sure why Riot hasn't touched him much, I guess since hes such a popular pick that any substantial nerf would cause a MASSIVE back lash from the community, kinda like with Riven. Honestly, as long as Lee Sin, Zed, Kalista, and all the other mobile bursty damage dealers aren't literally breaking the game, Riot wont do a damn thing about them.
Embertine1 votesOnce when I was it took almost half a minute for me to be killed.
Of course I had the 
so shortly after I died i just got right back up and some of my team arrived and together we finished them off and took inhib then nexus towers, and finally the nexus.
DMouseslayer2 votesYeah that's one of the fun things about tanks. That and Taric Trains where you have 2 or 3 people trying to kill you and you just kite them with stuns and heals until you lead them to a bush with your team in it.
Partholonian1 votesLast night I was playing Taric and 
tried to assassinate me. It didn't work out well for him. XD
Taric has been out of the meta so long, people have forgotten what he can do and why they need to respect him.
DMouseslayer1 votesYeah. No one else can stack like 400 armor yet still be scary in 1v1s.
Bodkins Odds2 votes
Ok.
Drunk Rummate1 votesthe thing about playing a tanky frontliner is... you still need to dodge stuff as well. you can't just charge straight in and facetank everything. you should only be eating skillshots if it's specifically to bodyblock for a carry.