If you get thrashed in lane and proceed to blame your jungler before their ganks are even effective,

AstroFerrari ·Dec 29, 2015·6 votes·517 views

screw you. Our job isn't to hold your hand in lane. I really don't understand how you go 0/3 at 5 minutes and go "wow fuck you jungler no ganks".

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Critmaster GarenDec 29, 20154 votes

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screw you. Our job isn't to hold your hand in lane. I really don't understand how you go 0/3 at 5 minutes and go "wow fuck you jungler no ganks".

this is very generalized. someone losing his lane can have a lot of reasons.

the most common are probably gettig counterpicked and bullied and zoned from the first levels on, or getting camped by the enemy jungler (some of them can dive for a kill very early on). its worse if its both.

the question you should ask yourself is not "does this guy deserved to be saved even though i dont like him?", but do you want to win the game? and what is the most effective way of doing so? if the top laner repeatedly gets camped by your enemy mid lane and the jungler from the first minute on, then you need to change your strategy.

either countergank, snowball another lane, or counterjungle and shut down the enemy jungler before he does more damage. either way you have to immediately do something before things really get out of hand. but dont sit on your ass and farm the jungle until 6 if youre losing turrets left and right because your opponent doesnt stop ganking.

though if the way the games are snwoballing right now, being 0/3 early on in a lane is almost gg anyways if one of your own lanes isnt equally fed.

the reason why it is your job to help your lanes win vs their opponents, is because youre the only one who can. the entire idea behind a jungler is to have a roaming teammate who can pop up on the map when his buddies need help or to snowball a carry.

DreadlocksDec 29, 20151 votes

Lol pretty typical thing for sm1 in silver and bronze to say, unfortunately..

Edit: that someone being the laner.

AstroFerrari Dec 29, 20151 votes

Does it really matter what rank I am? Would this be automatically more important if I was platinum?

DreadlocksDec 29, 20151 votes

No, i didnt mean it in an insulting way.. I'm just saying you don't typically hear that shit in higher elo.

Spaceman5pffDec 29, 20151 votes

Yes because Gold 1 is SOOOOOOOO high... News flash kid, you are in Silver DELUXE. Get over it.

EDIT: Stop talking down on people just because you have a different colored emblem EDIT: There is a reason that "gold" and "good" aren't spelled the same

DreadlocksDec 29, 20151 votes

Why so mad? i'm only speaking from personal observation.. I've seen less and less people flaming the jungler due to stupid shit like the OP has mentioned. Infact its almost unheard of when im playing ranked. Calm your sass down mr. silver 5, and quit acting like you know what the hell im talking about lol.

Spaceman5pffDec 30, 20152 votes

I don't know LOL. But thats probably because I don't always queue with the diamond friend that played your placements for you ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

DreadlocksDec 30, 20151 votes

I don't get it.. lol what?

Milodic MellodiDec 29, 20151 votes

I agree with this wholeheartedly. Either I blame myself because I'm making obvious mistakes (or my support, if it's obvious), or I blame my inexperience compared to my opponents on BotLane or the enemy Jungler. If I know the opponent's Jungler is Rengar , I'm going to play passively and make sure to buy item 2047 pretty much every life after Level 3 or 4. Maybe even at Level 2 if I recall during that time. If my opponent's BotLaners are something like Kalista and Blitzcrank , I'm going to pay extra-special attention to exploiting their play-styles and abilities' CD and making sure I don't feed them. If I play Tristana vs a champion like Graves , I should be able to take full responsibility if I end up feeding my opponents. My Jungler has nothing to do with it, unless he's behind and he's in such a condition that he can't use the opponent's apparent Counter-Jungling as an excuse. Same with being Support. If I play as Sona or Soraka , I should be able to take responsibility in the case I make my ADC's Laning Phase terrible due to feeding. Because my role is to support our BotLane Carry, I play with the full intention to do so — by both making sure my Carry (and team in teamfights) stays alive, and by making sure I don't end up feeding in his place, or doing both and making it so they easily snowball. That's not fun. It's not your Jungler's fault if you fail at a role, unless you told them before the match that you can't play the role and the Jungler didn't listen and took your role from you. I'm just saying what's on my mind because I'm a Tristana , Morgana , and Soraka main. I know what these roles entail, and thus play in such a way that I try to encourage our team to win by my actions. Not lose.

A Miss FortuneDec 29, 20151 votes

The only time I ever complain to our jungler about ganking is when they're playing someone like LeeSin and they never leave their own Jungle. No counterjungling, no ganking, doesn't secure Scuttle or push for objectives. It's like they think they're playing Devourer Yi and the only objective is to farm the Murk Wolves and Krugs. There's no point in playing a ganking jungler if you're not going to gank.