Remove jungle and remove ranged tops

Juice·Sep 13, 2019·5 votes·1,062 views

How about a game mode where champs have 0 damage on top lane if they are ranged until 10 minutes in and there are no jungle camps?

23 Comments

DuskDaUmbreonSep 13, 20194 votes

How about people stop bitching about fucking Vayne top and learn that it's been pathetic literally 100% of the time?

They die when you get on top of them. Take fucking ghost/flash if you can't find out another way.

JuiceSep 13, 20191 votes

I'm sure it's pathetic in your division, anything above silver and she is broken unfortunately

DuskDaUmbreonSep 13, 20192 votes

The actual fact of the matter is that at no ELO has Vayne top ever been good.

A few months ago it managed to hit a 51% winrate...with about 2% of Vayne's average pickrate. Not a 2% pickrate, 2% of Vayne's pickrate. As in 2% of the times Vayne was picked she was taken toplane.

Even when she was at a fucking 54% winrate botlane she still had a sub-50 winrate top. AT ALL TIERS.

This is not a silver thing. This is a literally everywhere on every server at every rank thing.

qko pateSep 13, 20191 votes

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The actual fact of the matter is that at no ELO has Vayne top ever been good.

A few months ago it managed to hit a 51% winrate...with about 2% of Vayne's average pickrate. Not a 2% pickrate, 2% of Vayne's pickrate. As in 2% of the times Vayne was picked she was taken toplane.

Even when she was at a fucking 54% winrate botlane she still had a sub-50 winrate top. AT ALL TIERS.

This is not a silver thing. This is a literally everywhere on every server at every rank thing.

Ima explain why this is happening. cuz ranged toplane players are ussually clueless monkeys.. and im talking to you like its a fact cuz it is..

DuskDaUmbreonSep 13, 20193 votes

If they're all clueless monkeys, maybe the problem isn't them being idiots, but rather the fucking champion being ass-tier in that lane.

qko pateSep 13, 20191 votes

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If they're all clueless monkeys, maybe the problem isn't them being idiots, but rather the fucking champion being ass-tier in that lane.

Dont talk with your ego .. its obvious that you want to end up right after all but youre wrong from the beggining.. what you said just made absolute no sense and you probably know that...

DuskDaUmbreonSep 13, 20191 votes

"Ego"

Fam I'm speaking off of over a year of reading Vayne's fucking stats.

Vayne has never been a viable toplaner. Even the times she does mediocre it's because she's broken in botlane.

Just because low-skill Darius mains get bullied by her does not make her OP in toplane. It means they're too dumb to take anything but ignite.

qko pateSep 13, 20191 votes

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"Ego"

Fam I'm speaking off of over a year of reading Vayne's fucking stats.

Vayne has never been a viable toplaner. Even the times she does mediocre it's because she's broken in botlane.

Just because low-skill Darius mains get bullied by her does not make her OP in toplane. It means they're too dumb to take anything but ignite.

Yeah gonna say it again. EGO if you dont want to admit it its fine leave right now.. its all you got to do by tommorow i will forget about your existence anyways.. Vayne is a counterpick without any proper counterpicks she is viable option even if she is shit.. its kinda obvious and your "VAYNE HAS NEVER BEEN A VIABLE TOPLANER" repeating does not change the fact she was and still is an annoying counterpick that has no proper counterplay to her... A good darius vs a good vayne means that the good darius loses EVEN IF HE TAKES GHOST IT JUTS DOES NOT MATTER ENOUGHT..

Nik NikersonSep 13, 20192 votes

If that's fact, then we can have this discussion when toplane players get good. Until then, it's still a terrible pick if you aren't smurfing 3 divisions below your main.

DuskDaUmbreonSep 13, 20191 votes

I sure hope you mean ranks and not divisions. And that you meant 5 instead of 3.

ZardoSep 13, 20192 votes

Sure! Only if riot also removes toplane bellies like renekton.

JuiceSep 13, 20192 votes

Renekton doesn't bully anything since S3

qko pateSep 13, 20192 votes

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Renekton doesn't bully anything since S3

Renekton doesn't bully anything as hard since s3 tho he is still a free win 1v1 melee champ that requries about 0% of your brain capacity sadly they're now even more champs just like him thats competition...

JuiceSep 13, 20192 votes

Add me on EUNE I'll pick soraka vs your rene , or any other champ you can think of

qko pateSep 13, 20191 votes

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Add me on EUNE I'll pick soraka vs your rene , or any other champ you can think of

I see that you play a bit of renekton which is and a thing that happens with you is that Renekton does not feel powerful since his kit is so simple and easy tho he is still fairly broken in the eyes of your teamates or enemies delusion is what follows..

DuskDaUmbreonSep 13, 20193 votes

LMFAO

qko pateSep 13, 20191 votes

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Sure! Only if riot also removes toplane bellies like renekton.

Im in where do i vote?

Posui GartSep 13, 20192 votes

Sure. Let's remove everyone who has something that hits farther than melee range Aatrox removed(Q) Darius removed(E) Gangplank removed(Q) Renekton removed(E) ... Everyone will enjoy playing Garen vs Volibear every game, right?

qko pateSep 13, 20193 votes

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Sure. Let's remove everyone who has something that hits farther than melee range removed(Q) removed(E) removed(Q) removed(E) ... Everyone will enjoy playing Garen vs Volibear every game, right?

The only thing i actually will be against about is aatrox Q cuz ya know its actually an ability with 20% of the shots having counterplay which makes him shitty..

mack9112Sep 13, 20192 votes

Maybe learn how to play against champions instead of demanding different strategies be removed.

DuskDaUmbreonSep 13, 20191 votes

Literally this is it. Just learn to play against the champion.

It's not even a good strategy. He got his ass whooped by something not even actually viable. The only place it surpasses a 50% winrate is in Iron, where it has a 100% winrate...over a single game. Literally just one game, which is a sample size so small it's utterly irrelevant except to show Vayne top can win in Iron. Everywhere else it's below 2.5% pickrate and sub 50 winrate.

This is pretty much how Vayne top always is.

mack9112Sep 13, 20192 votes

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Literally this is it. Just learn to play against the champion.

It's not even a good strategy. He got his ass whooped by something not even actually viable. The only place it surpasses a 50% winrate is in Iron, where it has a 100% winrate...over a single game. Literally just one game, which is a sample size so small it's utterly irrelevant except to show Vayne top can win in Iron. Everywhere else it's below 2.5% pickrate and sub 50 winrate.

This is pretty much how Vayne top always is.

What frustrates me is some people don’t want different strats to exist in the same lane. Some people I swear would prefer lanes consisting of two identical champions bashIng the shit out of each other.

Learn and understand matchups that is how you master league it doesn’t matter how well you animation cancel riven or perfectly hook with blitzcrank or farm to 6 flawlessly as nocturne what matters more importantly is understanding what you are playing against and there clear strengths and weaknesses which EVERY champion has.